I have read in a couple of different sources that pork can cause
trichanosis. Jenn has suggested that freezing it for a few months will
halt this. 

I will just continue to omit pork. I think it smells weird raw anyway!

DD.
--- In [email protected], Connie major <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> did I read somewhere/someone wrote pork is bad?? and if so why??
> 
> Jen-CA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:    I puree' (sp) them with
veggies and the dust and also yogurt.  Yum Yum
>    
>   Jen-CA
> 
> ntvlawher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I am going to asl my butcher about the bone dust. I was wondering how
> I would incorporate this into the food, but a treat is a good idea. I
> give the boys veal bones, but I worry that they might be too rich for
> them? I know you had mentioned that you also give the ground egg
> shells. Do you grind them yourself or are you purchasing that? 
> 
> Good to know about the pork freezing as well. 
> 
> cheers! 
> DD.
> 
> --- In [email protected], Jen-CA <wartenaschihuahuas@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the encouraging emails.  I felt like I was getting my
> teeth kicked in and planned on not responding to anymore emails. I
> like you have a butcher who is awesome.  He grinds bone, meat, and
> spleen up into a wonderful patty for me to split amoungst my dogs.  I
> also offer chicken necks, fish, and very few fruits and veggies.  I am
> still in the learning process which will continue as long as I have
> animals.
> >    
> >   The statements made in past emails about animals dying due to
> raw..... 
> >    
> >   RECALL Diamond dog food.  I wonder how many dogs died from that?
> >   RECALL Royal Canin canned foods,  I wonder how many dogs died from
> that?
> >    
> >   This is just recent recalls I won't waste my time digging up past
> recalls and wondering how many poor animals suffered due to
> contaminated processed foods.
> >    
> >   As far as pork, I have read you can freeze it up to 3 months then
> use it. Seams kind of pointless since there are so many other meats to
> choose from huh? but it can be done.  My butcher puts bones through
> the saw and has this huge pile of Bone Dust it is chicken, pork and
> beef. So I get it for free, freeze it for 3 months then add it to some
> fruits and veggies and Wala! a snack.
> >    
> >   Thanks so much for your emails.  I do not claim to be an expert
> but love to share what has worked for me.
> >    
> >   Jen-CA 
> > 
> > ntvlawher <ntvlawher@> wrote:
> >   Jen, 
> > I totally agree with you. The raw diet is fantastic, and there is such
> > a huge difference between the digestion of humans and the digestion of
> > animals that the bacteria in meat being toxic to dogs is just not
> > true. The only thing I have ever heard that you shouldn't feed is pork
> > as it can cause trichanosis. (funnily enough a man-produced bacteria
> > strain). Not to mention that a dog will bury a bone and dig it up
> > weeks later and feast on the rotting stinky thing with no
ill-effects. 
> > 
> > Do you make your recipe or do you buy it? I make mine, and it works
> > pretty well, I have a butcher near me who sells grind ends for cheap,
> > my only concern is finding the right supplement. right now I am using
> > a smidge of spirulina for minerals and vitamens, but am thinking of
> > growing some wheat grass this summer for a little addition. 
> > 
> > I used to make the boys stew and pour it over kibbles, but my chi is
> > getting a little chunky and the mini pin (a new addition) is a
> > diabetic and this diet was specifically suggested as being best for
> > him. It is working well.
> > 
> > A holistic vet is a must for this type of diet aswell. I wish there
> > were more in Ottawa where I am. 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Jen-CA <wartenaschihuahuas@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > >    
> > >   You need to find holistic vets.  Vets do not go to vet school to
> > study nutrition that is why they offer Science Diet at their offices.
> > One of the worse dog foods on the market plus the get a pretty good
> > size commission.  Raw feeding is one of the most natural ways to feed.
> > Do you think they hunted Iams in the wild? just because they are
> > domesticated does not make them any less of an animal.  do we feed our
> > lions and snakes Lion and snake kibble? NO we feed them what they
> > would get in the wild, now why do we insist on doing our dogs
> > differently?   They eat what we give them because they have no choice.
> > If you stick raw meat down on the ground and your dogs current
> > favorite food and lets see what they choose.  How many times do you
> > take your dog to the vet to be put under dangerous anesthetic to get
> > its teeth cleaned from tarter build up?  Where on earth does that
> > tarter come from? Do you think Kibble cleans the teeth? Do cookies
> > clean ours? lol With the natural diet
> > >  there is no need for teeth cleaning.  
> > >    
> > >   Study the dogs immune system and find out that ecoli and semolina
> > breaks down in dogs differently. to say a dog is just like us is just
> > plan uneducated.  We are no more like dogs as we are bears, cats,
> > birds.  We all have our own way of processing foods differently.  I
> > sure would not eat dog food either.  And why so much corn in the dog
> > food? Ever have a real bad shedding dog? ever have a scratching dry
> > skin dog? allergies to grains.  Real common.
> > >    
> > >   Study away! and buy a few holistic books as well, some state
> > grains and what each one does for our dog but most BARF freeders do
> > not use grains.  The only time a dog gets grains is in the stomach of
> > its prey.  So grains, fruits and Veggies are really not necessary but
> > some offer it.  Good luck with the studies, also type in "dog food
> > processing plants" in your search engine read some of those articles
> > :-( nasty.  
> > >    
> > >   Jen-CA
> > >    
> > >   
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Kay Lewis <granniekay@> wrote:
> > >   Katie,
> > > Please think long and hard about raw food.  Now carrots or
potatoes or
> > > celery or grapes are fine.  But please, have you researched
eating raw
> > > meat?   Every single thing that a human can get from eating raw or
> > > unprocessed meat a dog or cat can get too.  And with bird flu
and the
> > > problem with eggs, I'd be darn careful.   Do your homework and I do
> > > mean to look at more then just the sites that says how wonderful it
> > > it, look at some of the sites that also tell the pit falls of this
> > > practice.
> > > 
> > > It's a fad that comes and goes every few years. But I have yet
to meet
> > > a Vet that will recommend raw meat, especially beef or chicken
for any
> > > animal.   
> > > 
> > > Why not look into all the homemade cooked dog food receipts before
> > > putting your Chi's health on the line.  As long as good vitamins and
> > > minerals and all that are added or given to the dog daily most home
> > > made dog food is great.  Commercial dog foods didn't even get
popular
> > > until the 60's, before that everyone cooked for their dogs.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], kaaterwaul@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a web site for a good complete RAW  diet that has
> > home 
> > > > delivery?  I only have the one chi(two soon), and I  don't
live very
> > > close to pet 
> > > > stores. 
> > > > thanks
> > > > katie
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