OK i am new to this group and this will be my first post, I have a chihuahua (male) and I have thought about buying a female and breeding them, but I did my research and found out all the problems that could happen, I know my pets history and he comes from a good line, but it would just kill me, if i was to breed and something was to happen to the babies or the female, This is my first chihuahua to have and i am very careful with him, I have read that chihuahua puppies skull sometimes does not close all the way and they can have knee problems and so on, so i dont let my chi jump off of anything if i can control it sometimes he is just to hyper and all of the place to catch him, but he does not go out unless he has a harness on and so on, I understand she would like to breed them, but without a ton of research and a local WELL KNOWN breeder or someone that has A TON of experience can help her i would not do it, and i cant say that i agree with her breeding them, I know some of you on here say that you all will help her, but what is she going to do if something happens, you guys are just on the internet (not close by or anything like that) and there should be no bad blood, people have their opinions some are stronger and harsher than others, but it should not result in putting someone down that bad. I just know i could not live with my self if i caused harm or death to one of my babies.
--- In [email protected], Marsha Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why continue to beat around the bush. You think I am a bad person because > of the incident with my son. Your entitled to your oppinion. I think you > are rude and obnoxious and you are the reason many of the good people we > did have on this group are no longer on this group. Geeee I sure do miss > Bill and Chris and so many of those who offered good sound advice. They > didn't want to deal with your constant critisim. > > For all the newbies...anyone wanting to know about the incident refered > too, hey I'm an open book. My son has a lot of problem for which I am > seeking help. He has now been both hospitalised and sent to juvy for a > period due to an incident where he got mad and kicked and killed my chi. I > turned to my groups for comfort during my greiving, but Nonnie chose > instead to tell me I should kill my son. This is why, she wants to say I > am a byb. But...if you listen to post...you will see she considered ALL > breeding bad. She is anti breeding period. > > OK nough said. You want to make this a personal issue, that is fine. I > don't think the bad blood between us is any secret to anyone. But > regardless of what you think about me, it doesn't change the fact that you > can tell someone that you disagree with what they are doing without > putting them down to the dogs. I emailed this lady...told her I too think > she needs to put much more thought and education into this breeding than > she is doing, but at the same time, if she is determined to do it anyways, > I will try to be there to answer questions, and help her out as much as > possible, as long as she is willing to learn. > > AND, HERE WE GO....ANOTHER NONNIE/MARSHA ROUND BEGINS, I'm sure. > > Marsha > > > > > > many people are classified as BYB's in my opinion as well as others on > > this list ... they claim to want to "better" the breed but let things > > happen to their dogs and talk about their breeding operation in a > > laxadasical fashion.... know what I mean Marsha. > > > > Nonnie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Marsha Taylor > > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:07 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] I need some assistance about my chihuahua > > mating... > > > > > > > > While it is true that there needs to be more thought and research put > > into this planned breeding, this is not the proper way to advise > > someone. You draw more flies with honey than vinegar. We need to be > > prepared to educate people, offer sound advice, ect. NOT just jump down > > someones throat. The tone here is not the proper way to get to the point > > you are trying to get to here. All this will do is cause the person to > > leave the group, breed anyways, and have no one to turn to. Should this > > person put a lot more thought into this? Definitely....but lets educate, > > not annihilate. Marsha > > > >> By your statement, you tell me you don't want the true advice we are > >> giving you. You have decided to breed these dogs because you want to. > >> Not what is good for the dogs, their offspring or anyone else. To me > >> that is a selfish decision and you are in denial. I feel you are > >> making a bad decision, have not done your homework (which would make a > >> responsible and informed person who is breeding dogs) and should NOT > >> be breeding these dogs on a "whim" Because that is exactly what it is. > >> You have no idea of pedigrees and health issues and are just "hoping" > >> for the best. You may get lucky... but remember for each dog you breed > >> more will come from it. And you are contributing to the amount of dogs > >> that will die down the road for irresponsible ownership, lack of care > >> and genetic problems. > >> > >> If you wanted to do this wouldn't you have done research rather than > >> just throwing 2 animals together and not even having a clue about the > >> whole process? > >> > >> I know I'm right on this. > >> > >> I don't think you have one iota of what you are doing... Your > >> questions prove that. > >> > >> You sure need an education. > >> > >> Nonnie & the Punk & Darla > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >> ups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > > ups.com] On > >> Behalf Of elly johnson > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:02 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > >> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] I need some assistance about my chihuahua > >> mating... > >> > >> > >> > >> I see your point of view, but I know what I'm doing. Now that i've > >> heard enough opinions I think I'll just not ask for advice on here > >> anymore. > >> > >> Nonnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nonnie_nt%40gate.net> net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> well it sure seems that you don't know what you are doing breeding 2 > >> dogs. What are their genetic health issues and have you even > >> researched that. That should be done and by the questions you ask and > >> as you present yourself it is my opinion that you don't have a clue. > >> As far as mating them because you love them.... realize that you place > >> your female in jeopardy, set yourself up for major vet bills and alot > >> of people have bred dogs because they love them...... and you know > >> what those loved baby dogs die every day in shelters because others > >> like you breed them, don't want them, get apartments where they can't > >> have them and the dogs die every day from casual matings like this. > >> The other thing I love is when people say they breed their dogs > >> because they want their children to experience the miracle of birth. I > >> say to them rent a dvd or find it online.... Save a dog... Be > >> realistic. > >> > >> Chihuahuas like any other breed of animal have congenital defects that > >> are genetically passed and may not be evident. The prudent person > >> doesn't put 2 dogs together and breed. > >> > >> Nonnie > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >> ups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > > ups.com] On > >> Behalf Of elly johnson > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:22 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > >> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] I need some assistance about my chihuahua > >> mating... > >> > >> > >> The reason we are mating them is because we would love to let her have > >> a litter of pups! My mom and I love chihuahuas! The whole side of my > >> mom's family likes chihuahuas and think their all cute =D After Dina > >> has her first litter we are thinking of neutering her. But we're > >> planning on keeping 1 or 2 pups of hers. If she does have more then > >> we're expecting then my aunt Carla, my grandmother Rose, and my cousin > >> (27 years old) Liz said they would be able to adopt them. And since we > >> know them very well and they have no small kids in their household, > >> that the pups would be well taken care of with them. > >> > >> Nonnie I think you're being a little too picky. It's not like my > >> family doesn't know what we/they are doing. If we need any more > >> help/suggestions we can contact Dina's vet or the breeder we bought > >> her from. I was just hoping to get some assitance on the web, too. I'd > >> like to know as much as I can before they have pups. > >> > >> EMI-MAIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:emi-mail%40cox.net> net> wrote: > >> > >> I agree but also when mating two dogs I thought the male should be > >> smaller than the female not the same size. JMO > >> > >> Emi > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Nonnie <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nonnie_nt% 40gate.net> > >> net> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas% 40yahoogroups.com> > >> ups.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 7:58 AM > >> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] I need some assistance about my chihuahua > >> mating... > >> > >> have you health tested them and their genetic lines so as to prevent > >> alot of the genetic abnormalities that are present in the breed? You > >> should not be just mating 2 dogs. What is the reason that you are > >> mating them? > >> > >> Nonnie > >> > >> > >> Hugs > >> Nonnie & The Punk & Darla > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > >> ups.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> > > ups.com] On > >> Behalf Of lermagirl > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:46 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com > >> Subject: [Chihuahuas] I need some assistance about my chihuahua > >> mating... > >> > >> > >> My female chihuahau (Dina) is 14 months old and this is the first time > >> she is going to be...mating with another male chihuahua. > >> > >> My mom's friend is the person that Ricky (Dina's bf) belongs to, and > >> so Ricky will be at our house for 1-2 weeks or as long as it takes to > >> get my dog pregnant. We just brought Ricky on Monday and at first Dina > >> was afraid of Ricky because she is never with another dog exept her > >> best friend (Sunny...a golden retreiver), and she was pretty > >> strict with Ricky. But on Monday night we put the both of them in a > >> large kennel/crate and Dina seemed to still be afraid of Ricky, but > >> Ricky wanted to get down to "buisness" and he kept sniffing Dina and > >> trying to get on her but she wouldn't let him. And now they seem to be > >> getting along great! Well today I took both Ricky and Dina a bath and > >> I brought both of them in to my room. Then when I was on my > >> computer I saw Ricky humping Dina. My friend told me that I am NOT > >> supposed to interupt them or anything...but if they all of a sudden > >> start doing it when can I go bring them back to their kennel? And how > >> long do they usually do it for? How many times and for how many days > >> do they need to do it for so that Ricky can get her pregnant? 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