She is on a few meds to clense her system and then we will take the blood test again and see what happens Thanks for the info though....I am trying to avoid surgery at all costs... but I do want her to be better... I can give you a list of the meds once I am home and able to read the names...
dogmom60634 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Portosystemic shunting (PSS) should be diagnosed ASAP as, if it continues, will result in ataxia, seizures, coma. There are a few steps to determine if PSS is the issue. Other than the outward clinical symptoms your dog is presenting, serum bile acids and blood ammonia levels should be looked at. If these 2 tests suggest PSS, then you need to move on to a more targeted diagnostic tool. To accurately diagnose a portosystemic shunt and determine its location, imaging techniques such as angiography, ultrasonography, and scintigraphy should be utilized. Intraoperative mesenteric portography provides excellent visualization of the portal system but usually requires a laprarotomy. Because no dilution of contrast material occurs, intraoperative mesenteric portography provides an excellent image of the shunt if it is not too large. The technique is relatively simple and requires no special equipment. Diagnosis of PSS may be made with hepatic ultrasonography. PSS are more difficult to diagnose with ultrasonography; their location is often obscured by gas-filled intestines. Overlying ribs and lungs may also interfere. Colorflow doppler is useful for detecting changes in the direction and rate of blood flow in the portal vein. Nuclear scintigraphy is a noninvasive means of evaluating dogs for portal venous shunting. Magnetic resonance angiography (MRA) and CT scans have also been used to diagnose portosystemic shunts. The ultimate diagnostic tool is laparotomy. Please let me know if there's any other information I can provide you with and how your little one is doing. You can medically manage PSS to a certain extent, but only for a certain period of time. Given the dog's age, I would recommend a surgical solution. This pretty much ensure a normal life span - though nothing is guaranteed of course. As for the response of the person who feeds BARF - I do also. I try to change up the protein source every once in a while. 8 out of 10 meals the protein will come from meat- the other meals may come from eggs or whatever. My dogs also love raw vegetables - most especially broccoli & cauliflower & carrots. They like green beans too. I'll even add a little spoon of cottage cheese every so often. What I'm getting at is this - dogs eating fruits and vegetables are good. Some apple, blueberry assorted vege's etc. is great. However, dogs also must have some grains and mainly quality protein source. Feel free to be creative with things - mix it up every so often. --- In [email protected], Deloris Depp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you I did not know any of this information. I will discuss it with his vet. I told her that he had been eating fruit for his main food source and she didn't seem too worried about it , but i will address this with her. I just got him home tonight from the vet they kept him overnight last night thursday night with Iv.He seems alot better today. Just ate a few treats for me though but I think he''s just mainly worn out from all that has been going on. In answer to your question I am in Brunswick Georgia. I wondered about his condition with his liver because his mother nor his sister really have any problems with their liver. So couldn't figure out why he would. Vet is saying she thinks he may have a liver shunt but I want to keep an eye on him and his liver levels and see how he does. What do you think ? > Thanks again for all the information, and I'll keep in touch and let you know how this progresses. > Deloris Depp > Lil Man's MOM > > > dogmom60634 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jessica - There's really no nice way to say this, so I'm just going > to say it. You are either not fully explaining this situation to > your vet or you need to get a second opinion IMMEDIATELY. If your > dog has been eating nothing but peaches and pears for the past > several months as you said I'm not surprised he's having the problems > he is. Frankly, he's lucky it's not worse. > > First of all, he is not hypoglycemic. With all the glucose in all > that fruit he is hyperglycemic. Stop feeding him extra sugar. He's > shakey because he's weak and he may be starting to have neurological > issues - probably from potassium toxicity. > > He's horrifyingly deficient in many key nutrients and probably at > toxic levels of others. My first concern is his protein deficiecy. > > Dogs need a variety of nutrients, including protein, fat, fiber, > vitamins and minerals. Protein accounts for about 50 percent of the > dry matter in a dog's body and is an essential component of every > cell in the body. It is important in body structure, such as in > muscle, hair, bone and organs. Plus, protein is critical in > functions, including carrying oxygen in the blood, defending the body > against infections and digesting food. The dietary protein not > utilized in support of these areas can be burned as energy. > > Although protein is considered necessary for healthy dogs, it is not > actually protein that is used, but rather the amino acids of the > protein. A protein molecule contains thousands of amino acids. The > body can make some amino acids, while others, called essential amino > acids, must be supplied by the diet. Ten amino acids considered > essential to dogs are histidine, isoleucine, leucine, arginine, > methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, valine and lysine. > > The absence of even one amino acid will influence how dogs utilize > the rest. Protein deficiency symptoms, which are actually amino acids > deficiency symptoms, include depressed appetite, poor growth, loss of > weight, rough and dull haircoat, impaired immune function, irregular > estrus, lower reproductive performance and reduced milk production. > > Also of major concern to me is his vitaminitosis - both hyper and > hypo. Of particular conern to me is his copper level. I would > imagine he very, very close to (if not suffering from) copper > toxicosis. The first 2 stages do not usually have clinical symptoms, > however the 3rd stage does. In Stage 3, the dog becomes clinically > ill, and may have anorexia, depression, vomiting, abdominal pain, > polydipsia, polyuria, icterus, jaundice, ascites, and encephalopathy. > Weight loss is the predominant indicator, and in some dogs, is the > only sign. The clinical signs are usually the result of liver > necrosis, triggered when copper concentrations exceed 2,000 ppm DW. > > Pears are very, very high in potassium. With no other nutrients to > help balance out the potassium, he may be at toxic levels. Potassium > is a key nutrient in maintaining a healthy nervous system. May > explain his shakiness. > > The list goes on and on. I dont' know where you are located so I > can't really offer anything other then information here. I wish I > could see him and run a complete blood panel, among other things. > > You need to either fully explain this situation to your vet. If you > have and are sure that your vet understands what this little guy has > been eating for the past several months, then - and I can't stress > this strongly enough - get a second opinion NOW. > > --- In [email protected], Jessica Wolinski > <jaded_ska_princess@> wrote: > > > > The is a vitamin call Nutical and its high in sugar too... Its good > for them and I know my baby luvs it.. so I give it to her as a treat > sometimes now.. You should be able to get it from His doctor and/or > Petsmart.. > > > > Deloris Depp <lilman31523@> wrote: His levels were > high and the vet put him on denosyl, and his levels came down. I took > him to the vet this morning and the last time I had him at the vet > his level was 150 today it was 250. The doctor gave him sub q fluids > and a shot for nauseau. She sent me home with antibotic and marin > which she said works with the denosyl for his liver I told the doctor > a couple of days ago he was kinda shaky and I thought it was > hypoglycemia, so I gave him a few sips of sweet tea. I later found > out that the caffeine in tea was almost as bad as chocolate. I told > the vet about this , this morning and she didn't seem too worried > about it since it had been a couple of days ago that he had the tea. > > He is still not wanting to eat , but is drinking and going > peepee. So I've been keeping him hyped up with hical to make sure he > doesn't get too weak and hypoglycemia doesn't pop back up. > > Thanks for writing back , and please I'd appreciate any advise > you may have. > > Thanks Deloris > > LilMan's Mom > > > > Jessica Wolinski <jaded_ska_princess@> wrote: > > Deloris, > > > > What kind of Liver problems do he have? > > > > dogmom60634 <dogmom3@> wrote: > > Can you tell me if your little guy has only been eating > peaches and > > pears the past few days or if this has been going on for awhile? > > > > --- In [email protected], Deloris Depp <lilman31523@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I have a little male chi, who has had liver problems in the > past . > > The vet has him on 90mg tablets of denosyl which he is given every > > morning. For the last few days he hasn't been eating and his little > > tummy has been rumbling. When he goes outside to go potty he seems > to > > have a little problem with balance but not bad. I want to also add > > here that the only thing that he will eat is peaches and pears . > Vet > > said that the fruit was good for him and haven't had any problems > > until now. Called my vet tonight and she's going to take a look at > > him in the morning. Does anyone in this group have any suggestions > on > > how to make him more comfortable tonight or has anyone else had any > > problems like this. > > > Thank you > > > Deloris > > > Little Man's Mom > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > > > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! 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