Sometimes hens crow! Really! We had about 20 hens and 1 rooster and one of the 
hens was quite the cock-a-doodle-doer. Some people say that you need a rooster 
to make the hens lay, but then you have to watch for fertile eggs. I'm not sure 
if that's true or not. I never found a fertile egg and my girls laid an average 
of 10 - 12 eggs a day all year for 2 years. I think the dog run would work out 
ok.
Joy B
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: GJC 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:39 AM
  Subject: [SPAM]Re: [Chihuahuas] Was: Animal Kingdom's Odd Couples Now: Food 
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  I have been thinking of this so much I am dreaming of it.  A friend has a 
large dog run I am going to try to get, if it is not too hard to dismantle, 
another friend can build me an elevated house, then I will get the little 
chicks and raise them in the spare bedroom until they are big enough to be 
outside. I only want 2-4, enough for me to have eggs.  If the dog run is not 
big enough I will make it bigger, and cover it with plywood or something for 
shade.  No roosters, don't want the neighbors to hear them.


  On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Evelyn Quintana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


    I don't think it was too hard. I used to live with my uncle, a farmer, for 
a year and he raised chickens. Not to the scale of these other farms but he had 
a whole lot of them. They ran around the farm and I used to go out and feed 
them every day. It was nice and they had a gread life. I imagine it is harder 
when you are raising hundreds of thousands of them but I absolutly do not 
believe they have to be tortured in any way.   Evelyn 




    ----- Original Message ----
    From: GJC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 6:31:47 PM
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    so how hard is it to raise chickens?


    On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 3:31 PM, arlene weaver <arleneweaver2004@ 
yahoo.com> wrote:


            i agree with you evelyn

            May God walk with you today.
            arlene

            --- On Fri, 8/15/08, Evelyn Quintana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

              From: Evelyn Quintana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
              Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Was: Animal Kingdom's Odd Couples Now: 
Food Industry
              To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
              Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:01 PM



              I think that the fact they do this is such Sh*t and I really am 
so frustrated with the whole thing. I actually agonize about these things and 
for this reason I eat so little meat. It actually kills me that people do not 
care about how other creatures feel. Like it doesn't matter. Humans are SO 
arrogant to think that they are the only important beings on Earth and that 
nothing else matter. SCOTTY, BEAM ME UP!!!!!!   Evelyn 




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              From: Mandy F. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
              To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
              Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:51:18 PM
              Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Was: Animal Kingdom's Odd Couples Now: 
Food Industry



              Labels such as "cage free", "free range" and even "all natural" 
are very misleading.  Cage free and free range make us think of happen little 
chicken farms where chickens are free to roam through fields of grass... or 
something like that.  The reality is that cage free birds are instead housed in 
barns filled with thousands of chickens.  Their beaks are cut/burned to remove 
the hook as a way to prevent the chickens from injuring each other.  The floor 
is covered in chicken poo.  For the eggs/meat to be considered free range all 
the farm has to do is provide a door from the barn leading to an outside area.  
The door does not have to be opened for a certain number of hours during the 
day nor does the area have to be a big sprawling field.  Usually it's just a 
small pen with a layer of chicken poo on the floor.
              It's a nice idea, but as consumers we are being mislead with 
these labels.  I wish it was different.  It's not fair to let the animals 
suffer, but I do not know how the farming industry will ever be able to change. 
 
              -Amanda-



           





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