i have a rescue as well and he still nibbles at his legs or his sides causing him to loose fur... is this due to dry skin?
--- In [email protected], Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> wrote: > > YES!!! You are correct >  > Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > Deanna > >                                                             and >  The Dog Park Pack: > Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! > and honorary non-dog members of The Dog Park: > Stella-Macaw, Stanley-Amazon, Miles the cat > www.joys4toys.com > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Nancy Lucky <nancy.lu...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 7:02:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >  > and you do not cook it right - that is why it is called raw feeding right? > > > > --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> wrote: > > > >From: Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> > >Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >To: [email protected] > >Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 5:07 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Nancy, > >There is one company I know of that has the right ratio of meat/organ/bone... > > I like Primal's pre-made raw as they already have the right ratio or > >organs/bone/ meat etc. > >They are the only pre-made raw food company I really advocate because they > >offer > >grinds, which are pure meat/bones/organs without all the fruits and > >vegetables > >they don't need! It is more money though than you would spend doing it > >yourself > >but if you are only feeding one or 2 small dogs it is doable...with my > >number I > >need to do it myself LOL > > > >http://www.primalpe tfoods.com/ product/list/ c/9 > > > >But...really it doesn't take that long and you could do it sitting on a > >table. > >The grinder is small...maybe takes up a square foot of space with the plate > >to > >catch the ground. I can grind a whole chicken in about 8 minutes and thats > >with > >me starting with a whole bird to wash, cut in pieces, grind and bag in > >ziplocks. > > > >Hope that helps!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > >Deanna > > > >                                                            and > > The Dog Park Pack: > >Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! > >www.joys4toys.com > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Nancy Lucky <nancy.lu...@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 4:08:18 PM > >Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > > > > > >Thanks and this is probably a stupid question but I am disabled and can not > >stand long on my legs I suppose that you can not buy this product anywhere > >already done? > >thanks > > > > > > > >--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> wrote: > > > > > >>From: Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >>To: [email protected] > >>Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:20 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Hi Nancy, > >>Edible bone is bone the dogs can chomp through...like small chicken wings, > >>breasts, backs, necks etc. I grind the leg and thigh bones for the little > >>guys...but some of my bigger guys chomp through them just fine. I bought a > >>$99 > >>meat grinder that goes through them like butter and it just gives me peace > >>of > >>mind. Weight bearing bones like beef legs, larger beef bones etc are not > >>really > >>edible as they can't chew through them. I still let them chew the meat > >>off...their very favorite thing in the world is when mama hands them a > >>beef > >>rib....ahhh the sounds of pure lip smackin-puppy-joy!!! The love to get the > >>marrow out of the ends. I just watch and don't let them have them forever > >>as the > >>bones are too hard and I don't want them to chip a tooth on them. Here is a > >>list > >>I did for another Chi member that wanted to know about Raw feeding... > >> > >>Here are the basic how to's: > >>1. Feed 3% of predicted adult body weight... > >>2. Feed 80% raw meat, 10% organs (kidney/liver), 10% edible raw bone > >>3. You can grind if you are concerned about bone splinters for the little > >>guys > >>4. look at Maverick Grinder $99 at www.pierceequipment.com Will grind > >>chicken...all parts like butter! > >>5. I just buy whole chickens and grind everything except the wings and > >>necks...those they get to crunch on. > >>6. Chicken is the easiest meat to start with but after awhile you should > >>add in > >>a variety of meats, fish, poultry, lamb etc. > >>7. Be careful with weight bearing bones...they can damage teeth with the > >>bigger > >>dogs that have more jaw strength. I let my guys pick them clean and then > >>play > >>with the bones to get out all the marrow from ends etc. but then take them > >>away > >>after a bit. > >>8. > >>D[Å dâ¨{Sâ¹e�Å"u;ËÅ =ì¦Å"`Rê\æ$F¡´yH°&Ãç8ÂÃ"èéÿ©ºYârt!(\i®Ã Q4Ãf«tâ ºÃW!{ÿ8Ã'YÃ�ögJ6}çèi4[hòÃäiÃtLŽÃëŠR[â"V:½â¢-ãÂâ¶aÃçâ�...@ozÅ¡?ââfÃâ"ŠöW<1¯-âöM > >> > >>10. Relax...it really is simple! > >>11. Raw eggs are a GREAT protein...I feed them raw.. www.dogtorj.com > >>says one a day per dog but I feed them a couple times a week. > >> > >>Changes you will see: > >>1. Improvements in skin and coat > >>2. WAY LESS stools after adjustment...you check stools to see > >>consistancy...too > >>much organ=looser stools...too much bone=constipation. Grinding a whole > >>prey > >>like a chicken with all parts included is a GREAT balance without too much > >>figuring. > >>3. MUCH better breath!! > >>4. Clean, white shiney teeth > >>5. Balanced even weight > >>6. More "balanced" energy > >> > >>There are some yahoo groups on raw feeding you can join and many of them > >>are > >>fun...but some are very militanat so just keep your common sense in place! > >> > >>Hope that helps!!! > >> > >>Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > >>Deanna > >> > >>                                                            and > >> The Dog Park Pack: > >>Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! > >>www.joys4toys.com > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Nancy Lucky <nancy.lu...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 2:03:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >  > Actually I have been thinking of the raw diet as it seems to make so much > sense. > Can you tell me what you mean by edible bone? > Nancy > > --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> wrote: > > > >From: Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> > >Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >To: [email protected] > >Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >You most likely won't like my answer...but I gave up on the dog food > >comapnies > >YEARS ago...I was sick and tired of finding a formula I loved that had all > >the > >ingrdients I wanted and none of of what I didn't...only for them to be > >bought by > >another company and that formula would change...I was sick of bringing home > >a > >rancid bag of $54 food...I was sick of not know the quality of what I was > >feeding...so...I started cooking for them...which then led to now a raw > >diet. > >The changes that I have seen have been TREMENDOUS!!!!!! so my anwer??? 80% > >raw > >meat, 10% raw organs, 10% edible bone. > > > >Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > >Deanna > > > >                                                            and > > The Dog Park Pack: > >Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! > www.joys4toys.com > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Nancy Lucky <nancy.lu...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 1:55:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >  > No I did not know that I noticed the price went up so what do you recommend > as > the best food for chi's? > > --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> wrote: > > > >From: Deanna Corey <myowndogp...@...> > >Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >To: [email protected] > >Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 1:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >Ya know Royal Canine changed their formula not too long ago...one that...now > >in > >my opinion...is a food I would not feed my guys...maybe you should check the > >ingredients list and see if you have one of the new bags...there is a great > >site > >for rating food...Use your ingredients list to see if it is a food you still > >want to use with this chart. > >www.htpoodles.com/poodle-nutrition.html > > > >If you scroll down it has rated a few of the foods but know that many of the > >formulas change...so just use the ingredients list on your bag or on the > >companies website to rate it yourself. > > Grading Your Dog Food ~ > >What is the best dog food for my Standard Poodle > >Looking at the ingredients of your dog's food, find the ingredient listed on > >the > >table below. > > > >Starting with 100 points, add or subract the points given for each > >ingredient > >and total the points. > >Print this sheet to total your points for each item. The grade scale is > >listed > >at the end of the table. RETURN TO PREVIOUS PAGE > > > >For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table > >for use while grading your dog's food    Print Table Here > >Starting with 100, add or subtract the points shown for each ingredient in > >your > >dog's food Add or Subtract > > > >For every listing of "By-Product" -10 > >For every Non-Specific Animal Source reference ("Meat" or "Poultry", Meat, > >Meal > >or Fat) -10 > > > >For every Grain "Mill Run" or Non-Specific Grain Source - 5 > >Same Grain ingredient used 2 or more times in the first 5 ingredients. > >(example: ground brown rice, brewer's rice, and rice flour are all the same > >grain) - 5 > > > >Corn listed in the top 5 ingredients -2 > >Protein Sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top > >3 > >ingredients -3 > > > >If Lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to > >other > >protein sources) - 2 > > > >Food is Baked NOT Extruded + 5 > >Food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist + 5 > >Animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free + 2 > >Vegetables have been tested for pesticides and ARE Pesticide-Free + 1 > >Any of the meat sources are Organic + 5 > >For every different specific animal protein source, other than the 1st one. > >(example: Count "chicken" & "chicken meal" as only 1 protein source, BUT > >count > >"chicken" & "fish" as 2 different sources) + 1 > > > >If the food contains any of the following, add or subtract given points Add > >or > >Subtract > > > >BHA, BHT, or Ethoxyquin -10 > >Any Artificial Colorants - 3 > >Ground Corn or Whole Grain Corn - 3 > >Any Animal Fat (other than Fish Oil) - 2 > >Soy or Soybeans - 2 > >Salt - 1 > >Wheat(unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to wheat) - 2 > >Beef(unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to beef) - 1 > >Fruit + 3 > >Barley + 2 > >Probiotics + 3 > >Vegetables(NOT Corn or Other Grains) + 3 > >Flax Seed Oil(not just the seeds) + 2 > >Oats or Oatmeal + 1 > >Sunflower Oil + 1 > >Glucosamine & Chondroitin + 1 > >For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table to use > >while > >grading your dog's food > > > >  Print Table Here TOTAL SCORE ____ > >Grading Scale > >100+ = A+         94-100 = A         86-93 = > >B         78-85 = C         > >70-77 = D         69-below = F > > > > Grading Your Dog Food ~ > >What is the best dog food for my Standard Poodle > >Looking at the ingredients of your dog's food, find the ingredient listed on > >the > >table below. > > > >Starting with 100 points, add or subract the points given for each > >ingredient > >and total the points. > >Print this sheet to total your points for each item. The grade scale is > >listed > >at the end of the table. RETURN TO PREVIOUS PAGE > > > >For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table > >for use while grading your dog's food    Print Table Here > >Starting with 100, add or subtract the points shown for each ingredient in > >your > >dog's food Add or Subtract > > > >For every listing of "By-Product" -10 > >For every Non-Specific Animal Source reference ("Meat" or "Poultry", Meat, > >Meal > >or Fat) -10 > > > >For every Grain "Mill Run" or Non-Specific Grain Source - 5 > >Same Grain ingredient used 2 or more times in the first 5 ingredients. > >(example: ground brown rice, brewer's rice, and rice flour are all the same > >grain) - 5 > > > >Corn listed in the top 5 ingredients -2 > >Protein Sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top > >3 > >ingredients -3 > > > >If Lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to > >other > >protein sources) - 2 > > > >Food is Baked NOT Extruded + 5 > >Food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist + 5 > >Animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free + 2 > >Vegetables have been tested for pesticides and ARE Pesticide-Free + 1 > >Any of the meat sources are Organic + 5 > >For every different specific animal protein source, other than the 1st one. > >(example: Count "chicken" & "chicken meal" as only 1 protein source, BUT > >count > >"chicken" & "fish" as 2 different sources) + 1 > > > >If the food contains any of the following, add or subtract given points Add > >or > >Subtract > > > >BHA, BHT, or Ethoxyquin -10 > >Any Artificial Colorants - 3 > >Ground Corn or Whole Grain Corn - 3 > >Any Animal Fat (other than Fish Oil) - 2 > >Soy or Soybeans - 2 > >Salt - 1 > >Wheat(unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to wheat) - 2 > >Beef(unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to beef) - 1 > >Fruit + 3 > >Barley + 2 > >Probiotics + 3 > >Vegetables(NOT Corn or Other Grains) + 3 > >Flax Seed Oil(not just the seeds) + 2 > >Oats or Oatmeal + 1 > >Sunflower Oil + 1 > >Glucosamine & Chondroitin + 1 > >For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table to use > >while > >grading your dog's food > > > >  Print Table Here TOTAL SCORE ____ > >Grading Scale > >100+ = A+         94-100 = A         86-93 = > >B         78-85 = C         > >70-77 = D         69-below = F > > > > > >Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, > >Deanna > > > >                                                            and > > The Dog Park Pack: > >Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! > >www.joys4toys.com > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Nancy Lucky <nancy.lu...@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 12:07:27 PM > >Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > > > > > >Alll my chi's have loved Royal Canin - I even did a taste test with that one > >and > >Blue and they picked Royal Canin, if he gets hungry enough he will eat. > >remember > >they are very smart little dogs and if he thinks if he misses a meal he is > >going > >to get steak and lobster - then he will :) > >When I brought mine home I mixed a little pure meat baby food into their dry > >food so you might try that. But he will eat. > >Nancy, Abbey-Rose, and Maggie-Mae > > > >--- On Sun, 10/3/10, C.M. <carolynminerth...@...> wrote: > > > > > >>From: C.M. <carolynminerth...@...> > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >>To: [email protected] > >>Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:59 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>I fogot about that part. As with the TV dinners, would you need to worry > >>about > >>the sodium content? I know I can't eat them because of that :) > >>And my two vets did recommend Omega 3, fatty acids and fish oil. > >>I hope more experienced people jump in here too. I'm curious as well. > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > From: Kavi <kaviescontin...@...> > >>To: [email protected] > >>Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 10:53:12 AM > >>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >> > >> > >>Hi > >>Ricky does not eat dog food. He only eats human food like chicken, turkey > >>or > >>beef. He will not touch dog food. I have Royal Canin chi puppy dry down for > >>him > >>but he has never touched it.  > >> > >>QUESTION: What about feeding Ricky like banquet or swanson Pot pies? (if he > >>will > >>eat them). > >> > >>shanna > >> > >> > >>Visit my eBay Store For Childrens Wear > >>Specializing In Christening & Communion @ > >>http://stores.ebay.com/Kavis-Christening-n-Communion-Store > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--- On Sun, 10/3/10, C.M. <carolynminerth...@...> wrote: > >> > >> > >>>From: C.M. <carolynminerth...@...> > >>>Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >>>To: [email protected] > >>>Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:21 AM > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi Shana, > >>>Both of my dogs have the same problem and two vets told me not to give > >>>them any > >>>food with corn in it. Check the ingredients on the back of the bags and I > >>>bet > >>>you'll see that corn is among the first ingredients listed. I switched to > >>>organic food and the scratching and dry skin is clearing up. I also give > >>>oatmeal > >>>baths and in between baths, I give them little massages using a > >>>moisturizing > >>>lotion. They love the attention! > >>>Hope this helps, > >>>Carolyn > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________ > From: Kavi <kaviescontin...@...> > >>>To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> > >>>Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 10:05:50 AM > >>>Subject: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas > >>> > >>> > >>>Hi everyone > >>> > >>>Ricky is my rescue who wont eat dog food. now I feed him any meat I > >>>decide. what > >>>I am finding is he now is getting ichy skin. no flakes, but his coat is > >>>getting > >>>a bit dull looking and he scratches alot. I think this is due to him not > >>>getting > >>>all the vitamins and minerals he needs including oil. I plan to go to the > >>>pet > >>>store today and find a good vitamin /mineral with salmon oil in it. any > >>>advice? > >>> > >>>shanna > >>> > >>> > >>>Visit my eBay Store For Childrens Wear > >>>Specializing In Christening & Communion @ > >>>http://stores.ebay.com/Kavis-Christening-n-Communion-Store > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ " Lets talk about our wonderful little friends! Join today! " Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
