>From what I understand they have a different digestive system than we do. Its >like they can not eat chocolate, grapes and other foods that are toxic to them >but great for us! Abbey when she was a baby liked to eat other dogs poop and >she did not get sick - but I imagine if humans did it would be another >story.... I enjoy feeding my girls their breakfast by hand as it is just a >special time and that is when they get their chicken. I cook it and its >organic free range - I am a vegetarian so I do not eat any meat. I am still >looking into the raw feeding and have not decided yet. But everyone that is >doing it has healthy dogs. I always remember the great things my grandmother >told me when I was a little girl. She grew up on a farm and raised 11 children >during the depression so she had great wisdom. We were eating and I gave my >dog a chicken bone under the table and everyone yelled at me. My grandma came >to my defense and said "well its funny I grew up on the farm and I always saw a lot of dead chickens around the farm but never did see any dead dogs"....of course its because the chicken was cooked that causes the problems. Nancy and the girls Also for those of you who have cats - they eat mice all the time and unless the mouse has been poisoned they do fine.
--- On Tue, 11/9/10, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote: From: Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Who Has To Feed Their Chi By Hand? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:46 PM What I don't understand about feeding raw is how come the dogs don't get E-coli and the such? They say that beef and chicken is loaded with E-coli and that's why it should be thoroughly cooked. Uncooked pork can give you worms. So how come the dogs don't get any bacterias from uncooked meats? Also, dogs do need other nutrients to give them all the essential vitamins and minerals, so what do raw feeders supplement their diet with? ♥ Peggy & The Girls ♥ -----Original Message----- From: Deanna Corey <[email protected]> To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 2:54 pm Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Who Has To Feed Their Chi By Hand? I do feed Miss Myrtle by hand...she just eats more that way and I know exactly what she is eating...she is so small compared to the other dog park constituents LOL! Ok...I do have a confession...and I am sure this would give any real "dog trainer" fits...but i LOVE to feed them all by hand...especially breakfast! It is our time to bond together all as a group...a pack!! I measure/weigh out the amounts for each one and put that amount in their bowls and then line up the 5 bowls on my coffee table. They line up at my feet and sit and wait their turn as I give each one their bite from my fingers until all bowls are empty...we work on "sit", lay, beg, shake, roll over etc during this time each morning. It does take awhile to feed everyone but I just love his time with them! I painted each bowl with their names so it really helps me keep track of who is getting what. Please guys...don't bash me for this...I really enjoy this time with them and I see many positives...I know it isn't the "correct" thing to do but I bet the "trainers" wouldn't like me dressing them up either LOL!!! The "littles" get three meals a day and the others get two and usually dinner everyone just eats from their own bowl in a line on the kitchen floor. Everyone stays with their own bowl except for Mable the Boston...she doesn't quite have the idea yet but she is getting better everyday. She is my little piggy and would visit everyone's portions if I would let her LOL! I use to have a POt Belly pig years ago...and I miss Pignellope like crazy...I always talk about getting another someday! I have to say though with the addition of this little snorting, snoring, wiggly piggy Mable...she kind of fits that bill! LOL I need to clarify that this is the feeding routine when I grind their raw. If I am feeding whole pieces then we do the line on the deck outside as they need to use the floor to help them chew things up...I am not a fan of raw pieces being wiped ccross my kitchen floor---yuck!!! I do grind chicken and deer and rabbit so the time they get "pieces" is ribs, oxtail, lamb shoulder or necks which is just once or twice a week. That way they can keep the bones outside to play with on the deck for a few days. Another confession...I just started adding quinoa, a little brown rice or organic oats with some chopped organic veggies to their ground raw meat w/bone. I want to put on a bit of weight for winter...not me...them LOL...so hence the small amounts of grain. For some reason once I tried that Honest Kitchen and saw how wild they went for the veggies I just decided to add them in as well!!! I don't think it will hurt them and I know raw feeders are 100% against grains of any kind or veggies but when ya think about it...in the wild..the first thing to be eaten from the pray is the stomach contents of an herbivore...guess whats in there?? Seeds, grains, grasses, fruits and veggies...so a tad shouldn't be horrible!!! Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, Deanna and The Dog Park Pack: Nugget, Shuai-Li, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, and Caleb and honorary non-dog members of The Dog Park: Stella-Macaw, Stanley-Amazon, Miles the cat www.joys4toys.com From: Kavi <[email protected]> To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 10:02:31 PM Subject: [Chihuahuas] Who Has To Feed Their Chi By Hand? Hi everyone I know, I know what some will say. If you leave the food long enough they will eat on their own. Yes, that can be true. Ricky has been eating pretty good. He is now spoiled with my hubby feeding him our food! Now he is trying to hold out. He will eat his dog food (wellness canned) IF I NOW HAND FEED IT TO HIM. He did not eat his dog food all day. I had to dump a couple servings coz it got old. so for my dinner tonight I decided to have tomato soup. and guess what Ricky had to have?? yup... Tomato soup! with bread in it. that he ate on his own. LOL any one else have to do this handfeeding or just do it because? 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