Sure hoping little Mandy gets better and has a full recovery. I raise Mini Dachshunds and they are well known for thier back problems. That crate rest is a necessity absolutely ! Hugs,Mare~
--- In [email protected], Joan Croft <joan_croft@...> wrote: > > Thank you. > > I just got home from my pain management doctor appt a little while ago. I > called Judy to see how Mandy is doing and she said she is a little more > alert than yesterday.of course because the vet gave her a double dose shot, > which may have meant that she was worse yesterday than the last time. She > was laying on the rug by the door with the breeze blowing in and she said > she is still walking very gingerly. The spine specialist hasn't called her > yet. I did tell her about your earlier email and she was a bit surprised > that Monster had to be confined to the kennel for so long. I told her that > your vet said it was imperative for him. I asked her if the vet said > anything about degenerative disk disease and she said no. I think it will > be the spine specialist that will deliver the message about just how much > she needs to be confined. I think I was reading from your email about > Monster's instructions to her on the phone. > > When I had her around the 15th or so of May, I did keep her inside the > ex-pen except for her to go out potty. She didn't go bouncing outside here, > and it was only when I got her back to her house that the bouncing began. > She has two separate behaviors for two separate homes. She always goes out > in my yard and investigates and sometimes lays down in the sun. She won't > do that at home.no one out there with her, she wants to come in. She was so > good at my house and then the minute she got in hers she was bouncing all > around and then Judy's husband took her across the street to get the mail > and she was bouncing all along again. I think that was maybe 8 days after > the first injury. I think they got back on May 16th, and now on June 2nd > she is all in pain again. > > I am praying for her.I am hoping that the spine surgeon can determine what > the problem is and let Judy know what she needs to do for Mandy to recover. > The vet did say something yesterday about always keeping her on the Rimadyl. > > I am glad that Monster is doing so well. I think if something like that > happened to Dolly or Desi they would be easier to confine because they have > a very small area whenever I go out.keeping them in there during the day > would not be a huge change to them. I can even make their areas smaller > just by the way that I let the panel joints go. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of lgorum18@... > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > With any spine problem, even if its not disk disease, the dog needs to be > confined so it can heal. Even when she starts to feel better, she still > needs to be confined because it takes 6 to 8 weeks for complete recovery. If > she starts jumping around, she can make it worse and keep it from healing. > So, when Mandy started feeling better after the last attack and then started > jumping again, she just re injured it because it didn't have time to heal > all the way. Monster was a jumper and since he was diagnosed, we have had to > teach him not to jump so that he doesn't trigger another attack. We've had > to change a lot around here for him and at first it was hard because I felt > that he wasn't gonna be happy but dogs adapt and he is as happy as he was > before even with all the changes. If we hadn't made the changes, Monsters > quality of life would be low. So, even if Mandy doesn't have disk disease, I > would strongly recommend to your friend to keep her confined so they don't > risk more damage and when they find out what is wrong they will be able to > help her. Not even walks, just outside to go potty. Tell her this could keep > her from being paralyzed. If she does end up paralyzed, she can still > recover with crate rest, meds, or surgery. Never consider putting down > before trying these things. Get 2nd or 3rd opinions if she's not sure. I > know Judy has to make the decision, but please pass this info on to her. It > is very important to me and everyone at dodgers list to pass on this info to > help dogs recover and to prevent people from putting down dogs too early. > Please tell her to ask the vet or specialist about this and also go to > dodgerslist.com. I will be praying for Mandy. > > Lorena > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > _____ > > From: Joan Croft <joan_croft@...> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:12:34 -0700 > > To: <[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > Thank you Lorena. > > I don't think that he mentioned disk disease a few weeks ago when the first > big attack happened. I think Judy said yesterday that the vet mentioned a > disk.not sure if she said herniated or bulging. But, I didn't hear her say > that the first time. Mandy is a terrier and that makes her a jumper. The > first few days last time she did spend most of her time sleeping, and then I > watched her while they went to visit some relatives. I had taken Desi to > the vet for his butt rash and told the vet that I was going to have her at > my house and put her in the x-pen that I usually put across the doorway for > Desi when I am gone. I told him how Desi & Mandy love to wrestle. I also > told him that Judy said she was doing better but had also told me that Mandy > might have a good day or two but that would be the result of the shot and > then she would probably slip back a little. I had her confined when I went > out, and when I was home, I had her fully closed in if Desi was in the > house, and then if Desi was outside, I let Mandy walk around the house. By > the time Judy came back Mandy was dancing all the way home and Tony took her > out to get the mail and she was pretty much bouncing then too. She was > supposed to be kept quiet but she loves to walk, and maybe the walk that the > vet said was just to get her to go potty, but Judy might have have false > confidence and she got walked a little bit further than she really should > have. > > Judy and Tony are going to visit their family in Chicago on the 12th. She > made reservations for Mandy to stay at the animal hospital to be boarded > because she didn't want to put undue stress on me. I am doing pretty well, > and if Mandy comes over I will keep her on low activity because I know about > spine problems. If Judy lets her stay at the animal hospital boarding I > know that the vet will be checking on her, but she would be on the concrete > floor, they can't put her higher because she screeches when touched. So, I > told Judy that she isn't going to be a burden on me.we had a very good > arrangement last time, and I can't walk too far so if Mandy doesn't poop in > my back yard, a very short walk is all that she can get out of me. She can > have a comfy bed and be with me and my little ones. Desi and Mandy kissed > through the bars last time, but there was no playing with each other. I > told Judy she had to weigh the pros and cons in her mind and that if she > wanted her to stay with me there would be no problem. But, if it was Dolly > or Desi, I would be thinking of the vet being there in case of a problem as > a positive for being boarded and I think that another week might help Judy > to decide what she thinks is best. > > I know that Monster is doing better and he was confined, and even at Judy's > house Mandy is not confined she can get up and walk around and then as she > got better she would start to jump to get a treat or something. Judy has to > make the decision, I just let her know that I am open to keeping her here. > > I have to tell you that Judy has, and would again, take loans against her > retirement or put it on her credit card to pay for surgery for Mandy. I > don't think that putting her down would be an option for them unless she was > paralyzed and couldn't move. It would have to be a severe case of realizing > that Mandy was in so much pain and it would be the only humane thing to do, > before Mandy would be put down. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of lgorum18@... > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > Did the vet mention anything about disk disease? Monster was diagnosed with > it a couple months ago. One day he started yelping when I picked him up. The > vet did xrays and found a bulging disk. Disk disease cause disks to > degenerate faster than normal and dogs usually show signs between 3 and 7 > years old. The disk can bulge or herniate causing a lot of pain and > sometimes paralysis. This is very treatable! Either by conservative > treatment (crate rest) or surgery (if severely paralyzed and caught in > time). A lot of time is needed for recovery but if strict about it, most > dogs recover fully. Some vets don't know enough about this disease and dogs > are put down when they shouldn't have been. You may tell your friend to ask > about it and if her vet or the specialist doesn't know much about it or says > anything about putting her down because of it, find a vet that knows about > it and all the options. A great site to visit is www.dodgerslist.com. It > explains every thing about disk disease. Let me know what happens. I hope > this helps! > > Lorena > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > _____ > > From: Joan Croft <joan_croft@...> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 00:44:29 -0700 > > To: <[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > I talked to Judy and he told her that it is her spine and that there may be > a herniated disk. Our vet is going to contact the spine specialist vet. > Our vet said that Mandy may need to stay on the Rimadyl and Tramadol from > now on. That is actually consistent with what Carmen was saying, except > Carmen was talking long term that Mandy would have to be put down. I am > hoping that the specialist can give her a better prognosis. Carmen said the > original injury was from her previous owner tying her out and her pulling > constantly to get away. I don't know if that means that she was on a very > short rope or what. Now, with me having back injuries, I do know that > sometimes people hurt their backs by doing repetitive things and then it is > the last straw that gives them the pain that starts the problems and then I > also know that with the spine many injuries are degenerative, so the older > she gets, the more she will have problems. She is only about five years old > based on however the shelters figure it. Judy didn't have any problems with > her until this past Mothers' Day. Mandy means everything to Judy & Tony - > and me too. I want her to get well so much, but the vet saying she will > have to stay on the meds all the time is really not a very good sign. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of lgorum18@... > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:34 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > What did the vet say was wrong with Mandy? > > Lorena > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > _____ > > From: Joan Croft <joan_croft@...> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:47:04 -0700 > > To: <[email protected]> > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > Not all heart murmurs are a serious issue. I wouldn't be able to listen to > Dolly & Desi and know a murmur if I had too.LOL > > I am sorry about the seizures. I don't know too much about that, I just > know that my sister's dog was on Phenobarbital all the years that she owned > him. So, I don't really think he had any more seizures because of the meds. > > This week Dolly has really been trying my patience. She can communicate > with my Mom's spirit, and per my friend, her spirit is with my Sister's > family (the one that passed away on Tuesday). I am willing to share, but > Dolly just doesn't know what is going on beyond the knowledge that something > is not right. I see both her and Desi looking up into the air and sniffing, > sniffing, sniffing. I don't think that I ever saw signs of Desi doing that > before, so maybe he just knew she was there and is trying to locate her. I > had also thought earlier today that maybe my sister's spirit had been her > for a while because of the degree of anxiety in Dolly & Desi. I did talk to > my friend with 'the gift' and she heard Dolly acting up and a little while > later Dolly calmed down a lot. I had given her some of the calming gel, but > if that is what helped her it took a couple of hours. Once they were both > calm, and I was dead tired, we laid down and they both are acting pretty > normal right now. I hope that it lasts because I don't think my brain is > healed enough to be able to listen to their stressful barking and try to do > what I need to do as far as medications and playing computer games to help > my brain to heal. No computer games yet.was tired, then slept, now I feel > more tired than before..I hate when that happens. > > Also, my neighbor, Judy, who is Mandy's mom, called me about 2 pm because > Mandy was screeching in pain again. She couldn't get her into the car to > take her to the vet, so I brought Dolly & Desi's stairs that they use to get > up in the bed. Using treats to lure her, she got the hang of getting up the > three stairs.and Judy said she did better going up them when they left the > vet. The vet gave her a double strength injection and is going to try to > get an appointment - Monday at the latest with the canine spine specialist > in the area. My friend Carmen told me that it isn't good and that she will > not ever really get over this and ultimately need to be put down. I want to > prove Carmen wrong with this one. Mandy means so much to Judy and Tony - > and me and Dolly & Desi, too. So, prayers are really needed for her. She > is such a sweet dog and it makes me almost cry to see her like this. > > Thank you everyone! > > Joan > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of flopo > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Chihuahuas] Difficult dog week > > > > > > > > > > > Well one of our older dogs, Zero, (part shepherd, part pit, part lab and who > knows what else), had a seizure a couple of days ago. He's about 9 and has > never had a seizure. It was a grand mal and lasted about two minutes, > proceeded by a brief bout of vomiting. He had been in the house all > morning, so I don't think he got into anything. Within about three minutes > he had returned to normal and has been okay ever since. We'll keep a close > eye on him and see what happens. All appears to be well at this time. Then > I took my little ones in today for their first rabies shot. They aren't > required here, but if I want to take them with me into the States, they have > to have them. Well first of all they don't use the smaller doses for > smaller dogs, that didn't make me happy, then they told me since it WAs > their first rabies shot, it was only good for one year. After that, the > shots are good for three years. Then when the vet was examining Bruiser, he > asked me if she coughed much, ( I figured he heard a heart murmur, which he > did). She has those backwards sneezes, and coughs if she barks are growls a > lot, but I wouldn't say she coughs very much at all. So all afternoon I've > been trying to hear the murmur for myself, and I can't. > > > > What a day. Or should I say week! > > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:xiaonath@...> > ------------------------------------ We are now on Facebook! Join today! http://www.facebook.com/groups/chihuahuasclubYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
