Oh, I believe in training off leash as well. It definitely has it's plus.
But not all people have a fenced in yard to try it and if they are in an
apartment, you have no choice but to teach on a leash. I did take Princess
to the dog park many times, late in the evening and on days when I knew that
it would be empty and did some off leash training with her. She still has
that incredible prey drive, and if she sees a cat or a squirrel she just
takes off blindly. She knew the word squirrel and cat too well when I first
got her. I really believe she was taught to hunt them when she was very
young and it is really imprinted in her. I admit because of this, I cannot
trust her off of leash. Eskie have a strong prey drive to begin with so it
would be like teaching a trained blood hound not to chase a fox any more. I
have heard that off-leash training doesn't work for every single breed.
Danes are calm dogs to begin with, so they would learn that very easy.

Gigi walks with me off leash and listens instantly, so I have no problems
with her, she is not the big smeller that Princess is. 



 
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Rebecca
Date: 1/23/2012 8:42:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Dog Training-JOAN
 
  
This is a topic that you all will be relived to hear I won't usually add
too!!!  We train our Danes old school Koehler. They are Amazingly happy well
adjusted and wonderfully obedient!  


Now I swear that's it from me on training. I create enough havoc already on
this list and you are all very nice to put up with me lol 

Rebecca



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On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote:


  
Joan, I just wanted to clear something up. When I posted a method of basic
training, it was not based on my dogs just because she was from a shelter or
like Gigi who was a byb dog. It is a just a simple basic training method
that is good for all dogs to know, including puppies. Even show dogs are
taught the basic commands. If some one doesn't think that it is important
for there dog to understand sit, down, stay, come, then that's there opinion
and will only have an unruly dog in my opinion.  I started my girls out with
the basics, the same way that most other professional dog trainers teach
there students, because it is a form of communication with your pet. So many
other things can be taught to a dog once they knows the basics. My method is
simply based on the reward and ignore method. No anger, no frustration, no
fear, or the dog feeling insecure, no matter what garbage a dog comes with
or not. It does send a message to the dog that you are the alpha and they
are part of a pack.

I am sure that most of the dogs on here already know the basic 4 commands,
but I wonder how many of them do it Instantly, without there owner having to
repeat it to them several times or wind up yelling it to there dog. That's
what makes the big difference when training them on a leash as compared to
the dog just getting use to hearing those words and listening to them only
when they want to listen and not when the owner wants them to do it. 
 
I know that Lynda didn't really harm her dog, and undouble barely even
touched her nose. The only problem with doing that is that dogs usually
consider it a challenge, much like another dog nipping it's nose. It would
be much simpler to just call the dogs name to awake it and then touch her,
especially since her dog is partially blind. I feel that some others didn't
need to get bent out of shape over it either. It wasn't really abusive at
all, and for the most part, she sounds like a very lovely and kind lady who
like you and me loves all animals and would never harm one. That's the end
of my discussion on the subject.
 
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