Joan,you and babies are having a bad time just now but better times will come. Spring will soon be here and a new beginning. I am thinking of all of you and sending hugs. Ann
sent from Ann's IPAD On Jan 28, 2012, at 3:40 AM, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know if reducing the amount she gets would be effective enough. I > can't find too much info on the actual vaccine either. I would have to ask > the Vet and the odds are, she will probably say to give her the full dose > each time. I hope you realize that this vaccine is really experimental as are > most new vaccines, and our pets are the guinea pigs, just as most pets have > been guinea pigs for the other vaccines. > > <TRANSP~1.PNG> > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Joan Croft > Date: 1/28/2012 2:13:44 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Canine Influenza > > > Gigi is so small, that perhaps your vet can just give her a tiny dose of the > first shot. If she seems to do OK with that, the second shot the first > season is a month afterwards. For that reason, I would maybe even have her > wait a tiny bit longer for the second of the first year’s series. For the > second year forward there is just one injection. > > It is too bad about not being able to take our dogs where we would like to. > I took Dolly & Desi to three dog fairs in the last couple of years, but there > are tons of dogs there and a lot of them have their heads higher than the top > of the stroller. Sure…my dogs have the flu vaccine and the bordatella > vaccine and all the other ones that they should have. But, if some big dog > comes and sneezes or drools on something near Dolly & Desi, there probably is > not much of a chance that they would not get sick. I can’t take Desi to > Petco or PetSmart because he is the little yapper that wants everyone to know > that he is there…unless he is trying to locate little Chiquitas in the store. > I rarely take Dolly anywhere without Desi, and the only place that is lately > is to the vet for her hernia surgery, stitches removal and now the bleeding > eye infection. Well…guess I shouldn’t complain because I can’t really get > out too often myself! > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Peggy & The Girls > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 7:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Canine Influenza > > > > > > The canine flu (H3N8) actually came from horses and spread to greyhounds, in > 2004, in FL. It's rare that a virus can jump from one species of animal to > another, which is why it was so hard to detect in the beginning. It's not so > much that the virus itself can cause death in a dog, but some dogs who's > immune system has been compromised can get pneumonia and that is what usually > kills them. The shot does not prevent the dog from getting the virus, but if > the dog does come in contact with the virus, it isn't as servere, and they > usually won't come down with pneumonia, but rather a servere consistent > hacking cough that sounds more like Kennel Cough. Only a blood test can prove > if it is the virus or KC. This is what I was told by my Vet, and I also read > it some where. > > > > It spread from the southern states to the east north coast mainly from > shelters and with the constant transferring of shelter dogs and rescues, it > made it's way to the West. Last year, Petsmart here on LI who boards dogs, > had an outbreak and had to close it's boarding facility. For that reason, I > didn't take my girls to the petshops anymore and I even stopped using the dog > parks. Believe me, I miss doing that, and Princess really misses the freedom > of running free in an enclosed area, like the dog parks. I really wish there > was some place safe that I could let her run and exercise free again, but > there isn't. One of the drawbacks of renting and not having your own yard. > With Gigi's health issues, I am afraid to give her any shots what so ever. > She too liked the freedom of the dog park, but not as much as Princess needs > it. :( > > > > Now I am thinking, what's the difference, when I walk them, they have their > nose in everything and are constantly smelling where other dogs go anyway. > Maybe when the Spring comes around, I will get them the shot and pray that > Gigi doesn't have any side effects from it. > > > > <image0011.png> > > > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: Joan Croft > > Date: 1/27/2012 4:14:39 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Canine Influenza Was How to Socialize Puppies > > > > > > Yes…and that is another reason that I can’t always take Desi with when the > appt is about Dolly. I can hold both of them…for a little while. But then I > go and sit down on the benches, and I don’t know what germs or bacteria are > there when they are sitting on it. > > About three years ago, my vet’s office started posting that they had the > canine influenza vaccine. I had a friend in Florida that had a Yorkie that > got the flu and then had really bad COPD. She and her vet worked for four > months to figure out what human meds could help, because there are not too > many – if at all – for dogs. They were using Singulair, Albuterol, and a > bunch of other things. Then one evening she was holding him and he passed > away in her arms. So when I saw the notice for the vaccine, I was in there > to get Dolly & Desi their shot. The receptionists said they probably don’t > need it because there haven’t been any cases here…but I just wanted them to > be protected…just in case. (I don’t think that the vet would have been very > happy to hear the receptionist shooting down something that was posted for a > reason.) A week later, a neighbor across the street told me that their > friends had a poodle…she got the flu and she passed away while she had the > flu. I was glad that I had got the vaccines for Dolly & Desi after hearing > that. > > Yesterday when I was in there with Dolly, there was a notice posted that your > dog must have the influenza vaccine (and the first one is done in two > shots…the first one and then the second one a month later.) if you are > leaving it to be boarded. I questioned one of the receptionists about that > yesterday and she said that they have been having quite a few cases of the > flu here. This is a military town (Nellis AF Base) and a lot of people are > also moving from more expensive places to here. This all started on the east > coast about three years ago and now it is starting to affect the dogs here in > greater amounts of cases all the time. I know that some of you don’t want to > give your dogs vaccines – and that is your call – but I just wanted to post > this for all that would be interested. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Ann Banks > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] How to socialize puppies > > > > > > That is why I never let Pedro and Chico on the floor at vets or any where > public. Too many germs, but they really don't care to go. > > Ann > > sent from Ann's IPAD > > > On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:50 AM, Joan Croft <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Desi will go over and meet every dog and cat that are in the lobby of the > animal hospital. Today Dolly was very enamored with a german shepherd…and > then the owner told me that he had mange…oh…please no mange for Dolly. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Shelley > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Chihuahuas] How to socialize puppies > > > > > > Hello, > Gimili, my almost 3 month puppy has already learned how to be very brave when > I am holding him and barking his head off and growling viciously at strange > dogs. And I, his master, have learned that other dogs like to bite Chihuahuas > and one bite could kill my 2 and a half pound baby. So I am holding this > crazy, barking creature, trying to let him get to know other dogs and trust > them, but they see this barking thing and think he's a bunny or something and > want to bite him! Okay, I am exaggerating a bit. But he has already gotten > bitten twice (not hurt), I am much more cautious now, but I still want to > teach him that other dogs can be his friends. Do your Chihuahuas act like > this? > Gimli even growls and barks a lot to our dogs, but he wants to play and they > just tolerate him and give him a warning growl when they get tired of him. > > Shelley > > > > > >
