Hi Peggy,
Ya just gotta love main stream media!! Lol!! No...the boys are not out yet...as 
Baxters brigade left, more came in. It's all media hype and lies to keep us 
pacified!! Lol! We won't be out of there for years and they have more 
deployments scheduled through 2015. We haven't changed a thing...we haven't 
accomplished a thing...just lost lives!! 

Well...the kids are up...gotta start the French toast!!

Romping in the Dog Park!
Deanna and the Dog Park Gang!

The LITTLES:
Mouse-chi 11-13-2004
Madison-yorkie 11-20-2010
Myrtle-chi 4-23-2010

The MIDDLES:
Nugget- poodle 8-24-2004
Bella-Pom 1-15-2007
Mabel-Boston 7-14-2010

The BIGGUNS
Logan-GSD 11-24-2011
Caleb-rott/chow/pitt mix 6-17-2006-RIP 2-22-2012
Maxine-Pitt 6-3-2008
Toby-ESS 12-12-2006

Stella and Stanley ( winged dog park members)
And of course....the CAT (Miles)

LIFE WITHOUT A DOG IS LIKE DANCING WITHOUT MUSIC. YOU CAN DO IT, BUT WHO WOULD 
WANT TO?? ...and I like all kinds of music!!

On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:02 AM, Peggy & The Girls <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gigi had a Booster a month before she was spayed and was fine. She has border 
> line stats for her liver, she needs a low protein and fat diet, because when 
> the liver doesn't function properly it can't absorb excess proteins and fat 
> to begin with.  The Rosmary in dog treats was a big trigger too. There has 
> been controversy over it in dog foods for a long time now.  It is suppose to 
> be worse for cats. I did a lot of experimenting and kept a daily diary of 
> everything about her for months and by process of elimination of her treats 
> and different kibbles, and then retrying them and then stopping them again, I 
> have no doubt that a high protein and high fat and rosemary are the culprits 
> now. Also dogs with any type of liver issue are susceptible to seizures from 
> boosters and anesthesia.  I really don't think that the Booster was the 
> culprit, since like I said, the weird behavior started the same day I took 
> her home after the surgery. The pre-surgery blood test showed a border-line 
> functioning liver, but the stupid vet didn't think it was a problem.....well 
> the anesthesia made it worse. I guess in time it would have been possible for 
> her to eventually start having seizures anyway, due to the liver not 
> functioning properly, but the anesthesia certainly speeded it up.
>  
> As far as Happy, the mini macaw who I think is the male, he has plenty of 
> toys and every couple of months I rotate them or buy new ones. I doubt that 
> the green-cheek conure female is a bother for him, since he has never shown 
> any concern for her, and if anything, I think he would kill her if he had the 
> chance, so I never let them near each other. What is the name of the bird 
> rescue in CA? Our bird rescues here are in the same shape as the dog 
> rescues......over packed. A lot of it has to do with the economy and people 
> loosing their homes and relocating and not being allowed to keep their large 
> birds, especially in apartments because landlords don't want to hear 
> complaints from other tenants due to the noise that they make. I have been 
> trying to find some one else who has an older yellow collar macaw who is also 
> about the same age as Happy, which is 23 yrs old, to compare a few things 
> about them. Do you know of anyone? Do you have yellow collar mini macaws in 
> your rescue? 
>  
> Love all the pics of your babies. Have you ever let Madison's fur grow to 
> full length to see what she would look like? I had a 3.5 lb Yorkie many years 
> ago, who lived to 16 1/2 and kept her in full length, until her senior years 
> and then kept her in the puppy clip.
>  
> BTW, I am happy for you that your son is back in the states. From what I read 
> on the news all our boys are suppose to be out of there and the bases are all 
> empty from the pictures that they showed. Hope we never have to go back there 
> or any of those countries.
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> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: Deanna Corey
> Date: 4/3/2012 9:24:05 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Re: Deanna
>  
> Hi Peggy,
> Nuggets seizures were most improved once I got him off of grains! Every vet 
> we have seen so far seems to think his seizures were triggered by 
> grains...personally I think it to be boosters...but I do have to admit that 
> going to the raw brought the hugest improvement. There are so many other 
> extreme benefits at this point I will never go back! But that's just me. 
> Going raw brought them down to one a month...and they were less severe...but 
> I just wanted them completely gone. At the time of Gigi's spay did you give 
> her her boosters? I've only had one vet suggest the booster might be the 
> culprit, but for us the timing was uncanny!
> 
> Our parrots are doing great! I work on Tuesdays at a parrot rescue...it is 
> amazing how many get turned in between the ages of 7 and 10...when they start 
> getting mature. The hormonal changes seems to be hard on them. What seems to 
> really help those at the rescue during those hormonal flare ups is toys!! 
> Lots and lots of toys...rotated and those meant to be destroyed...lots of 
> wood and leather. It really does keep most handle able! Maybe that would help 
> yours? Many at the rescue seem to calm down tremendously in their late teens. 
> Maybe there s something else going on with Happy?? Do you get her checked 
> each year with an Avian vet? There are so many medical issues that can cause 
> them to become nasty...might be worth looking into if you haven't! Another 
> thing you might do is have the one you are unsure about DNAd to discover sex. 
> You could be triggering the behavior by having a male and a female in the 
> same vicinity. Separating Stella and Stanley solved our issues. Especially in 
> the spring!! The whole rescue has way more issues every spring!! Lol!! We 
> just separate and  give them their space as needed! Everyone relaxes by 
> July!! The only bad bite I ever got was last spring by not watching the body 
> language of a hormonal male Amazon...and amazon body language is pretty darn 
> clear lol...I was just being stupid and in a hurry!
> 
> About Shuai Li...normally with co ownership, the pups or profits from the 
> pups are divided...usually a larger percentage going to the owner taking on 
> the most of the responsibility. Both have to agree on the male and the 
> prospective homes...at least that is how it is in our contract. To be 
> completely honest, I really didn't think I would ever have to worry about 
> this arrangement...my evaluation of Shuai Li was not at all what Michelle 
> thought of her. At the time, both of us were both stepping out of the show 
> world...so I had thought it was just a formality that would never come to 
> fruition. If Shuai Li can't be here, Michelle's is the next bet place!! Shuai 
> Li is in the lap of luxury! We feed the same way which is very important to 
> me. We vet, groom, etc the same so it works. She will have one litter and 
> then we will decide where her forever home will be. She has a waiting list 
> for her pups and we haven't even decided on which male yet...I'm not to 
> worried about it...pretty sure she will be here after its all over. To be 
> honest, I really want completely away from the show/breeding world. I did 
> it...I did enjoy it...I learned a lot...but I'm done! The whole thing has 
> changed so very much! It seems to be way more about who's holding the leash 
> than about the dog itself! Unfortunately the politics are big!! And that 
> takes the fun out of it!! I just want to enjoy my dogs!!! I am still very 
> much in favor of good breeders and protecting the value of each individual 
> breed...but for someone else!!
> 
> Both Toby and Nugget are neutered. Logan will be when he gets 
> older...probably around his first birthday. I found a vet in my area who does 
> hysterectomies and leaves the ovaries in place...it was a long search but an 
> option for me so that Mabel and Madison will be spayed this year. There seems 
> to be some real authentic documentation lately showing rapid declines in 
> health of females spayed with ovaries removed...allergies, seizures, cancers 
> etc. so to me it's important to keep the ovaries in tact. I most likely will 
> not spay Myrtle as she is so very small...but the verdict isn't in yet or 
> sure on her.
> 
> I'm on my iPad at present so I'll send some pics that I have on this 
> device...then another time I'll send some from my regular computer...
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> Logan is soooo much bigger now...this is his first day at home!!
> 
> 
> Romping in the Dog Park!
> Deanna and the Dog Park Gang!
> 
> The LITTLES:
> Mouse-chi 11-13-2004
> Madison-yorkie 11-20-2010
> Myrtle-chi 4-23-2010
> 
> The MIDDLES:
> Nugget- poodle 8-24-2004
> Bella-Pom 1-15-2007
> Mabel-Boston 7-14-2010
> 
> The BIGGUNS
> Logan-GSD 11-24-2011
> Caleb-rott/chow/pitt mix 6-17-2006-RIP 2-22-2012
> Maxine-Pitt 6-3-2008
> Toby-ESS 12-12-2006
> 
> Stella and Stanley ( winged dog park members)
> And of course....the CAT (Miles)
> 
> LIFE WITHOUT A DOG IS LIKE DANCING WITHOUT MUSIC. YOU CAN DO IT, BUT WHO 
> WOULD WANT TO?? ...and I like all kinds of music!!
> 
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:20 AM, "jules" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry. The photos did not show!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Peggy & The Girls <phrpg5@...> wrote:
> >
> > Busy year for you and your family. I am finally retired and loving it! Gigi
> > s seizures have stopped as well, although you can see some slight brain
> > damage. She has some liver issues and I think the anesthesia from when she
> > was spayed triggered the seizures, because right after the surgery she
> > refused to drink water, or any fluids for almost 3 months, during which time
> > I had to soak her kibble and syringe her a couple of times a day. I really
> > think that was the beginning of it all. Sometimes she still displays some
> > weird behavior type of seizure, but it only last for a few minutes but, I am
> > more inclined to think it is brain damage, since now she is aware of things
> > and me when she gets like that, where as before she was out in space. She is
> > now on a low protein and low fat kibble, and doing much better. She cannot
> > have any of the natural foods or natural treats that have Rosemary in them,
> > as that seems to trigger a seizure. Your pack is on a raw diet which is a
> > high protein diet. Seizure dogs have to be on a protein of 21% or less, or
> > they will be prone to seizures. This is working for Gigi so far and it has
> > helped to defray the use of phenobarbital. It has also helped her to loose
> > 1/2 lb, which is a good thing. I so wish that we had non-anesthesia teeth
> > cleaning Vets here like you have in CA. Gigi is going to need it again, and
> > I am so afraid of the anesthesia, since that is what triggered the seizures
> > to begin with. I don't know what else to do. 
> > 
> > Princess is well and thank God, strong as a horse and no medical issues, not
> > even bad teeth! Happy, the yellow-collar mini macaw will be 23yrs old this
> > week and Rainbow, the Green-Cheek Conure will be 22yrs old in July. Happy is
> > now nasty, because she/he is at the mature breeding age and is so frustrated
> > Actually, I think she is a he. Sad fact, but so many of the larger parrots
> > get this way once they reach full adult age, which is why people get rid of
> > them. Rainbow is still a sweety and loves to be groomed. I know that she is
> > a female because she layed eggs at 16 and 17 years old, but for months
> > before she laid those eggs she was nasty and then afterwards went back to
> > her sweet old self. 
> > 
> > I could never buy a dog on breeder/show terms only to loose the dog a year
> > later. Once I own a dog it stays with me forever. I would rather have a pet
> > then some ribbons in a box. I just couldn't do it any other way. When you
> > have those terms, who gets her puppies? I am happy for Nugget, atleast the
> > med is working and that has to be a big relief for her. 
> > 
> > Is Logan and Toby neutered? Since you have so many unspayed females, I can't
> > see how else you could control them. I really would love to see some pics of
> > all of them, especially Madison. She was a puppy the last time I saw a
> > picture of her. 
> > 
> > Here are a couple of current pics of my girls:
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > -------Original Message-------
> > 
> > From: Deanna Corey
> > Date: 4/2/2012 9:17:25 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Deanna
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Peggy,
> > Shuai Li is living with her breeder...she wanted to finish her out and breed
> > her...I most likely will be getting her back in about a year or two. She is
> > doing really well...I just didn't want to do the show thing anymore!! My
> > last years of it left kind of a bitter taste in my mouth. We kind of co
> > owned her...yet paperwork wise she is all mine, but Michelle really thought
> > she might turn out to be something...wanted me to agree to show her...which
> > I did. But she is into it way more than I want to be so agreed to let her do
> > it. 
> > 
> > 
> > Toby, the ESS has always gone back and forth between my daughters and mine..
> > same with Bella the Pom. Both actually belong to her but they have been
> > fighting to keep their house for the last few years and just recently lost
> > it completely...so both Bella and Toby are here with me...Bella will stay
> > here until Andrea gets all settled in their new home and Toby will remain
> > here forever...although Bella may too...it depends on their new landlord.
> > Andreas old house had 5 acres...Toby loved to be there...they had sheep and
> > goats for him to herd and he loved the horses too. But with them losing
> > everything, he will have to be happy here. We only have 1/2 an acre but we
> > do a lot of hiking and he has slowed down just a bit...so now he is very
> > happy inside with mama and the pack.
> > 
> > 
> > Maxine the Pit is my sons dog...once he moved back home here so did she. She
> > is a great dog but doesn't do well with the littles so she stays with him.
> > The way our property and home is, it's kind of divided into two sections..
> > Jimmy has his own section and Maxine has her own little yard connected to
> > Jimmy's part of the house. It's nice because she can come inside through his
> > doggie door and into his rooms and I don't have to worry about her getting
> > too rough with the littles!! I don't think I ever claimed her in my sig but
> > I figure I feed her and hike with her more than he does so I added her into
> > it lol!! She has been here about two years now.
> > 
> > 
> > Losing Caleb was really a tough one!! He was so good and gentle with
> > everyone and really felt it his job to protect everyone...I never worried
> > about our house, my kids or grands or any of the dogs as he would die to
> > defend them!! He was a great hiking dog and I could hike with the Littles as
> > long as he was there...never an issue with coyotes, bears or mountain lions
> > with Caleb in tow!! He has left a huge hole in our hearts and lives!! We are
> > not too sure exactly what happened...at 10 pm I let him out in the back for
> > final potty before bed...at 10:20 I let him back in...he was whining
> > miserably and unable to move the last half of his body. We think he fell or
> > slipped off the last step...we went that night to the emergency vet...they
> > did exrays and gave him pain meds till we could get in that morning to our
> > regular vet. He had blown out his disc. He would be permanently paralyzed
> > and in pain...so our option was for him to be put down. I miss him sooooo
> > much!!
> > 
> > 
> > Logan was added the week before Caleb's accident...friends had a beautiful
> > litter of Shepherds and gave us one!! He is coming along great!! He loves
> > the littles...and they just adore him!!
> > 
> > 
> > We finally got Nuggets seizures under control. After playing with every
> > natural remedy known to mankind, changing everything we could discover...and
> > making a dent but never completely eliminating them, we turned to Pheno....I
> > sure didnt want to but I just wanted the seizures completely gone...we will
> > just have to deal with the affects of the pheno if they come!!
> > 
> > 
> > I do think there has been a new Grand added since I've been off list...baby
> > Olive is turning 5 months old. She was born almost exactly one year...by a
> > few days...after Andrea lost Eleanor. She is such a chubby bunny!! Cameron
> > turned 3 yesterday, Jack is going to be 5 in July and Evelyn turns 6 in
> > January. Their oldest, Lori just turned 14.
> > 
> > 
> > Baxter, my son in the Army, is just finishing up his first deployment in
> > Afghanistan. It has been absolutely horrible...he lost so many of his
> > friends...he went to Kandahar with 68 and they are returning with less than
> > 1/2.... Hardest time in my life and I'm way sure harder for him!! We are
> > actually picking him up today from LAX for 30 day leave...then he goes back
> > to Ft Drum in NY. ,....but hopefully not another deployment...we are
> > praying!
> > 
> > My hubby is on his last year before retirement...yeah!! We can't wait!!!
> > Nope...never moved...in this market we wouldn't make a dime selling...so we
> > are in the process of adding on. My sewing business is going pretty well..
> > keeps me busy anyway...about 5-10 orders a week but then I'll hit a little
> > lull and have a week or so off...so it's been really nice. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > That's the news from the dog park....so what has been happening with you!!?
> > 
> > Romping in the Dog Park!
> > Deanna and the Dog Park Gang!
> > 
> > 
> > The LITTLES:
> > Mouse-chi 11-13-2004
> > Madison-yorkie 11-20-2010
> > Myrtle-chi 4-23-2010
> > 
> > 
> > The MIDDLES:
> > Nugget- poodle 8-24-2004
> > Bella-Pom 1-15-2007
> > Mabel-Boston 7-14-2010
> > 
> > 
> > The BIGGUNS
> > Logan-GSD 11-24-2011
> > Caleb-rott/chow/pitt mix 6-17-2006-RIP 2-22-2012
> > Maxine-Pitt 6-3-2008
> > Toby-ESS 12-12-2006
> > 
> > 
> > Stella and Stanley ( winged dog park members)
> > And of course....the CAT (Miles)
> > 
> > 
> > LIFE WITHOUT A DOG IS LIKE DANCING WITHOUT MUSIC. YOU CAN DO IT, BUT WHO
> > WOULD WANT TO?? ...and I like all kinds of music!!
> > 
> > On Apr 1, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Peggy & The Girls <phrpg5@...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well I see from your signature that your pack has changed. What happened to
> > Shuai-Li, the Shih-Tzu?
> > Don't remember you ever mentioning that you had a Pom, or a Pitty before and
> > what is a ESS? Logan is a puppy so I guess you recently got him too. Boy
> > have you been busy, LOL! Sorry to hear about Caleb, he was still young,
> > what happened? Pictures of all the new guys please!!
> > 
> > Hope the kids and hubby are all well. Anymore grandkids added to the family?
> > Did you ever move like you wanted to?
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------Original Message-------
> > 
> > From: Deanna Corey
> > Date: 4/2/2012 12:29:08 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Housebreaking A Dog! Ann
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Peggy!!
> > I just rejoined the group...glad to see you are still here...I was sure
> > hoping you were!! Howdy everyone!
> > 
> > Romping in the Dog Park! 
> > Deanna and the Dog Park Gang!
> > 
> > 
> > The LITTLES:
> > Mouse-chi 11-13-2004
> > Madison-yorkie 11-20-2010
> > Myrtle-chi 4-23-2010
> > 
> > 
> > The MIDDLES:
> > Nugget- poodle 8-24-2004 
> > Bella-Pom 1-15-2007
> > Mabel-Boston 7-14-2010
> > 
> > 
> > The BIGGUNS
> > Logan-GSD 11-24-2011
> > Caleb-rott/chow/pitt mix 6-17-2006-RIP 2-22-2012
> > Maxine-Pitt 6-3-2008
> > Toby-ESS 12-12-2006
> > 
> > 
> > Stella and Stanley ( winged dog park members)
> > And of course....the CAT (Miles)
> > 
> > 
> > LIFE WITHOUT A DOG IS LIKE DANCING WITHOUT MUSIC. YOU CAN DO IT, BUT WHO
> > WOULD WANT TO?? ...and I like all kinds of music!!
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > =
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