Thanks very much for this information, Robin!  Sounds like you're saying
that  there is no safe and sure way to guarantee that a dog doesn't
chase/bolt, if not on a leash.

Brenda


On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Robin Gordils <[email protected]>wrote:

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> They should always be kept on leashes as even a well trained titled dog
> can bolt and be killed by a car, dog or even a bike. If they run up to the
> wrong dog they can be killed or kicked by a non dog lover. Four months old
> is the start of the independence for puppies and they start their running
> off and other bad behaviors. When someone is coming have them sit and feed
> a high value treat to keep them focused. If the person is willing they can
> give a treat as long as the dog is sitting. My dogs are usually trained to
> an AKC Companion Dog level so I use a mini pinch collar or micro for toy
> breeds and do heel work. The dog has to remain focused on my not the
> distraction or I do an about turn and they correct themselves. I train from
> 8 weeks on up and have shown my dogs at 4 mos in obed matches and started
> getting a title at 6 mos and 1 day old. A well run obed class is always
> good. But IMHO betting your dogs' lives on training is not good, I know of
> 2 top titled dogs killed when they chased a squirrel into the street. I
> have had my multi titled dogs bolt when scared by loose dogs and when in
> chase mode. Eventually something will happen and off leash dogs are illegal
> in most places and can get you sued.
>
>
> Robin, Dobe Axel CGC, TT, German Pin Ranger CGC, TT, Chihuahuas Alice CGC
> and Monte CGC, MinPins HoneyB, Brutus, and IMPS foster Jordan
>
> Www.minpinrescue.org
> Www.chi-rescue.com
> Http://chihuahua.rescueme.org/Florida
>
> leakaweah <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm new to this group.
>
> We adopted two chi mixes a few months ago when they were around 9 weeks
> old. They are from the same litter. Nugget was the runt of the 6 puppy
> litter, and Jewel was one of the bigger ones.
>
> I live part time on a farm at an intentional community. I frequently walk
> through the community with Jewel and Nugget, and for the first few weeks it
> worked beautifully. The two would follow me everywhere and were friendly
> with everyone they came upon. However, for the last few weeks (they are now
> ~4 months old), Jewel, the larger sister, has started chasing people
> bicycles, usually barking and growling, so I had to start keeping her on a
> leash.
>
> I'd very much like to go back to the beautiful times of walking with the
> two of them off-leash. Has anyone gone through this and figured out how to
> stop the chasing/barking/growling behavior, or can anyone recommend a
> particular training method?
>
> I've trained them both to sit, stay and come, but all that is out the
> window for Jewel when she is in "attack mode". Jewel still follows me, and
> eventually will return after a chase scene (but I don't allow this to
> happen anymore because I always put her on a leash when we're out on the
> farm.
>
> Jewel remains an extremely sweet and obedient puppy when she is not after
> someone, and never acts agressively towards me or my husband.
>
> I read "The Dog Listener" and have tried to incorporate the behaviors that
> signify myself as the alpha.
>
> We have mostly kept them together, though they sleep in separate crates
> and eat from separate bowls. We've heard it's important to keep them
> separate a lot as puppies to avoid them becoming a bonded pair, but we
> haven't followed through with that intention very well. We are just
> beginning, however to have them separated during the day for 2-3 days a
> week.
>
> We may try taking one or both of them to an obedience class at some point.
>
> Any advice anyone has would be most appreciated.
>
> I've posted a couple of photos under a new folder "Nugget Jewel"
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brenda
>
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