> Original question: > > Hi all > > I have a 3-phase motor witch I'd would like to run with only 1 phase, so > I need a capacitor to "generate" the missing phase. > > How can I determine the value of the capacitor? > > The motor has following type label: > > 220/380V, 1,3/0,75A > 0,35PS, 0,25kW 50Hz > cos phi 0,70 > 1400 U/min > > Any ideas? > > tia > Edi Im Hof > > > > It might be less expensive to have your utility install real three phase > service, than to produce your own pseudo third phase.
You are talking about electric motors of relatively high power. Edi asks for an application of 0.25kW. In this case you don't need a 2 to 3 phase converter, as you suggest. In fact here the three phase motor is used as a 2 phase induction motor by using the coils in a way that was not meant by the manufacturer and in fact is not optimal. In the cases which you describe below, theoretically this way of doing is possible and for a motor of 1 kW it can indeed be done. For larger power perhaps you run in difficulties with the capacitors which must be too large in capacitance and which has to conduct too large currents. > > > Operating a three phase motor on single phase requires using an idler > motor to achieve the best possible third pseudo leg. > Said idler motor will not operate any machinery, but should have a > flywheel. > The idler motor should be of the old cast iron style design, with > emphasis on heavy duty massive armature. > Start the idler motor with at least a 40 mfd AC running capacitor. > AC capacitors come in two grades, starting duty and running duty. > Using a running duty capacitor to start means extremely reliable > operation. > You can use a hand operated normally open pushbutton to energize the > starting capacitor until the idler motor rotates at full speed. > Leaving the capacitor switched on will heat the capacitor and it will > last about six months. > Once the idler motor is rotating at full speed, it is okay to switch on > the work motor that you want to operate. > If said idler motor has a massive flywheel, there will be no appreciable > reduction in idler motor speed when any load is applied. > Your work motor can achieve about 70.7% rated HP. > You can switch on additional work motors for additional equipment and > they will all contribute to the third pseudo leg. > I wired a machine shop with one 5 HP three phase idler motor, and five 3 > HP work motors, and one 5 HP work motor. > They all can be used at the same time, after the 5 HP three phase idler > motor is started. > Their 5 HP lathe can bog down if it is being used hard and if all the > other motors are being worked hard. > The limiting factor is the incoming current limit of the single phase > utility power. > > > Another machine shop that I service has an air compressor motor that > incorporates a pseudo third phase capacitor filled box. > They do not use an idler motor. > I replace their dozen running grade capacitors about every six months. > > > I too am curious to know the capacitor selection formula. > You asked about a formula to select the running capacitor, and I can > only suggest that an ammeter will tell you when the current is correct. > > That is, you add capacitors to achieve the rated current for the pseudo > leg. > Be careful that you do not exceed the VAC rating of the AC capacitor. > You can series several capacitors to increase the withstand VAC, but > this reduces the capacitance. > You can parallel several capacitors to increase the capacity, if their > VAC rating is substantially greater than the operating VAC. > > > I have built and sold three timer operated self-starting three phase > idler motor derived pseudo third phase industrial panels. > The electricians who installed these panels, and wired several 3 phase > industrial machines, also installed one 5 HP idler motor to produce the > third pseudo leg. > Each of my panels incorporates a three phase loss detector and low duty > cycle industrial contractors. > If the three phase power is switched on at the beginning of the business > day and used all day, a design that calls for low duty cycle industrial > contactors will save a lot of money. > If the 3 phase power is to be switched on and off throughout the > business day, then use Nema rated high duty cycle industrial contactors, > which are reliable and which are expensive. > > Remember to have your utility quote the cost to install real three phase > service, before you devise a costly means to produce the third pseudo > leg. > > Jeffrey Meade > 713 Seventh Street NE > North Canton, Ohio 44720-2016 > USA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: 330.497.0736 > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C3752B.FAAAD8D0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = > xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = 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class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Original > question:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Hi > all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I > have a 3-phase motor witch I<span class=3DGramE>'d would</span> like to = > run with > only 1 phase, so I need a capacitor to "generate" the missing = > phase.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>How > can I determine the value of the capacitor?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The > motor has following type label:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>220/380V<span > class=3DGramE>,<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> = > </span>1,3</span>/0,75A<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>0,35PS, > 0,25kW 50Hz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span > class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Courier New"'>cos</span></font></span><font size=3D2 > face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> > phi 0,70<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>1400 > U/min<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span > class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Courier New"'>Any ideas?</span></font></span><font size=3D2 > face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span > class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Courier New"'>tia</span></font></span><font size=3D2 > face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Edi > Im </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier = > New"><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'>Hof</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font > size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It might be less expensive = > to have > your utility install real three phase service, than to produce your own = > pseudo > third phase.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Operating a three phase = > motor on > single phase requires using an idler motor to achieve the best possible = > third > pseudo leg.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> = > </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Said idler motor will not = > operate > any machinery, but should have a flywheel.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The idler motor should be = > of the old > cast iron style design, with emphasis on heavy duty massive = > armature.<span > style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Start the idler motor with = > at least > a 40 mfd AC running capacitor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>AC capacitors come in two = > grades, > starting duty and running duty.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Using a running duty = > capacitor to > start means extremely reliable operation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You can use a hand operated = > normally > open pushbutton to energize the starting capacitor until the idler motor > rotates at full speed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Leaving the capacitor = > switched on > will heat the capacitor and it will last about six = > months.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Once the idler motor is = > rotating at > full speed, it is okay to switch on the work motor that you want to = > operate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If said idler motor has a = > massive > flywheel, there will be no appreciable reduction in idler motor speed = > when any > load is applied.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Your work motor can achieve = > about > 70.7% rated HP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You can switch on = > additional work > motors for additional equipment and they will all contribute to the = > third > pseudo leg.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I wired a machine shop with = > one 5 HP > three phase idler motor, and five 3 HP work motors, and one 5 HP work = > motor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>They all can be used at the = > same > time, after the 5 HP three phase idler motor is = > started.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Their 5 HP lathe can bog = > down if it > is being used hard and if all the other motors are being worked hard. = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The limiting factor is the = > incoming > current limit of the single phase utility = > power.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Another machine shop that I = > service has > an air compressor motor that incorporates a pseudo third phase capacitor = > filled > box.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>They do not use an idler = > motor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I replace their dozen = > running grade > capacitors about every six months.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I too am curious to know = > the > capacitor selection formula.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> = > </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You asked about a formula = > to select > the running capacitor, and I can only suggest that an ammeter will tell = > you > when the current is correct.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> = > </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>That is, you add capacitors = > to > achieve the rated current for the pseudo leg.<span = > style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> > </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Be careful that you do not = > exceed the > VAC rating of the AC capacitor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You can series several = > capacitors to > increase the withstand VAC, but this reduces the = > capacitance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>You can parallel several = > capacitors > to increase the capacity, if their VAC rating is substantially greater = > than the > operating VAC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have built and sold three = > timer > operated self-starting three phase idler motor derived pseudo third = > phase > industrial panels.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The electricians who = > installed these > panels, and wired several 3 phase industrial machines, also installed = > one 5 HP > idler motor to produce the third pseudo = > leg.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Each of my panels = > incorporates a > three phase loss detector and low duty cycle industrial = > contractors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If the three phase power is = > switched > on at the beginning of the business day and used all day, a design that = > calls > for low duty cycle industrial contactors will save a lot of = > money.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If the 3 phase power is to = > be > switched on and off throughout the business day, then use Nema rated = > high duty > cycle industrial contactors, which are reliable and which are = > expensive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > nt></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Remember to have your = > utility quote > the cost to install real three phase service, before you devise a costly = > means > to produce the third pseudo leg.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> = > </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></fo= > 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