We can implement "external" JavaScript objects and call them from within a
hosted page, or visa-versa.  See this patch set:

http://codereview.chromium.org/6482/show


On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Daniel A. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Also, I do not know if it is possible, but it would be worth while to see
> if we can hook into V8 from the browser model and add our own functions.
>
> Daniel A. White
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Daniel A. White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
>> I think Marshall has the right idea.  Other wrappers of his concept
>> besides the ActiveX could be one for MFC - which I could take advantage of.
>>
>> Daniel A. White
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Marshall Greenblatt <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> The framework that I envision for embedded clients will be very simple
>>> and focused, with access to only a subset of the functionality provided by
>>> chromium's WebKit layer (basically mirroring the functionality that the
>>> ActiveX control will provide).  Ideally, the user will be completely
>>> insulated from the underlying chromium layer, similar to how the chromium
>>> layer insulates users from WebKit objects.
>>>
>>> When you say "delegate objects," are you referring to the use of
>>> interfaces as delegates (like RenderViewHostDelegate, for instance), or are
>>> you thinking of something more in line with how C# (or managed C++) uses
>>> delegates?  An example of the latter approach would be wrapping each
>>> callback in its own object type and then overriding the += and -= operators
>>> of the host class to provide a shortcut for registering and unregistering
>>> them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Amanda Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Putting together a document is great.
>>>>
>>>> While you are working on it, you should take a look at the WebKit
>>>> documentation as a reference point if you're not already; while the
>>>> WebKit embedding method for Windows isn't as rich as NSWebView in
>>>> Cocoa, reading up on both will give you a good idea of the types of
>>>> embedding and extension that the WebKit and Chromium code bases are
>>>> already designed for
>>>>
>>>> As one example, they both make extensive use of "delegate" objects
>>>> instead of individual functions as callbacks--while this isn't a
>>>> common idiom in Windows, it does have some advantages if you're not
>>>> trying to create a drop-in replacement for Microsoft's WebBrowser
>>>> control.
>>>>
>>>> --Amanda
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Marshall Greenblatt
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > The ActiveX control that I'm developing for Windows isn't portable,
>>>> but the
>>>> > underlying chrome-based functionality (like test_shell, for instance)
>>>> is
>>>> > quite generic.  It would be rather easy to break the ActiveX project
>>>> into
>>>> > two separate components -- one that provides the underlying
>>>> chrome-based
>>>> > implementation as a simple, streamlined, C++ framework and the other
>>>> that
>>>> > adds an ActiveX wrapper on top if it.  The framework would provide
>>>> standard
>>>> > implementations for the browser window, message loop and default
>>>> > functionality (printing, context menus, resource loading, etc),
>>>> allowing us
>>>> > to offer similar functionality and semantics on different platforms
>>>> and
>>>> > technologies (ActiveX, ObjC, wxWidgets, etc).  The embedded client
>>>> could
>>>> > then customize the default functionality and handle events by
>>>> registering
>>>> > callback interfaces.  For instance, creating a fully functional
>>>> embedded
>>>> > chrome window using this framework might be as easy as the following:
>>>> >
>>>> > // Create the new browser window object
>>>> > ChromeBrowerWindow *pWnd = new ChromeBrowerWindow();
>>>> >
>>>> > // Register our custom handler if we're interested in intercepting
>>>> browser
>>>> > events
>>>> > // MyBrowserHandler implements the ChromeBrowserHandler interface
>>>> > MyBrowserHandler handler;
>>>> > pWnd->RegisterHandler(&handler);
>>>> >
>>>> > // Create the browser window parented to |parentWindow| and drawn at
>>>> the
>>>> > specified location
>>>> > pWnd->Create(parentWindow, xpos, ypos, width, height, flags);
>>>> >
>>>> > // Navigate to a URL
>>>> > pWnd->LoadURL("http://www.google.com";);
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll put together a document describing what I think the framework
>>>> should
>>>> > look like.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Mike Pinkerton <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mac we definitely want an objective-C wrapper around our
>>>> framework.
>>>> >> That's what WebKit provides, and what all our consumers would
>>>> >> expect/demand.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Avi Drissman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> > I've experienced CFPlugins, and I've never figured out why they use
>>>> a
>>>> >> > COM-like system there. It adds a ton of complexity for no real
>>>> benefit.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I can't speak for other platforms, but using COM on the Mac is not
>>>> >> > needed
>>>> >> > when you have ObjC and its introspection capabilities. I don't see
>>>> why a
>>>> >> > framework wouldn't do.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Avi
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Marshall Greenblatt
>>>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Hi All,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> As many of you probably know there's been talk of developing a
>>>> >> >> chrome-based ActiveX (COM) control for Windows.  But what about
>>>> other
>>>> >> >> platforms?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> For OSX, Apple offers a COM-like framework called "Core Foundation
>>>> >> >> Plug-ins":
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> http://developer.apple.com/documentation/CoreFoundation/Conceptual/CFPlugIns/CFPlugIns.html
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> For linux, there's quite a collection of COM/CORBA-like
>>>> >> >> implementations:
>>>> >> >> http://linas.org/linux/corba.html
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Or, getting away from COM, we have frameworks such as Qt, gtk+,
>>>> >> >> wxWidgets,
>>>> >> >> etc.  What framework would you find the most useful for embedding
>>>> a
>>>> >> >> browser
>>>> >> >> control in your development project(s) on the linux and/or osx
>>>> >> >> platforms?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> - Marshall
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Mike Pinkerton
>>>> >> Mac Weenie
>>>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --Amanda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> >
>

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