On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:52 PM, yoav zilberberg
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Jeremy, i can't see how it will make things any worse to punch these holes
>

I never said it's worse...just that you couldn't make it airtight.

Patches welcome.  :-)


> you still fork flash in its own process like you do now
> only you sandbox it.... how is it any worse ?
>
> this is just an observation that if i would write malware (which of course,
> i would never)
> i would just use flash plugins exploits to be cross browser compatible
> and this renders the sandbox nearly useless for future attacks
>
> what "decent" malware writer would bother with webkit explits ? none!
>
> besides, if you look at the help forum of chrome, you will see some people
> are starting to catch malware like this
> which is btw, how i got this evil site's URL.... i would never click on my
> own such a foul looking site
>
> as for the auto updating issue, i suggested a solution in one of my prev
> posts
> and i am sure you can have a word with adobe for this
>
> in a sense chrome makes it easier to infect itself(!) as you run plugins in
> the medium integrity level (Vista and above)
> and you normally install chrome in the local user account, so no UAC prompt
> will help the user
> if some delicate file or DLL is written to chrome folder, and then it will
> do something never intended
>
> also, one more note, flash is special enough that if you would "hard code"
> the solution to it, you would anyays
> solve most infections problems in the world, and maybe even cancer... who
> knows ?
>
> and regarding what CPU said (and ignoring the auto-update) it seems that
> flash does work flawlessly
> using your '--safe-plugins' switch, and doing this on that site does stop
> the attack
> (tbh, maybe the attack was stopped because the sun's java died in the
> sandbox, but Ian said it was a flash based
> attack)
>

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