I think you'd need more than one person and twenty minutes. One person isn't going give you any useful data - this thread is full of one-persons.
I happen to agree with Pink, though I think there should be less difference between History and Closed Items (I have a long running rant about how after N closes, you shouldn't have to care about what was in a tab and what was clobbered as part of navigation). I believe that no-one expects/predicts anything - they just expect to see the page they clicked on - it's after the page has loaded that they may realize and regret that they happened to have a certain tab open and it was clobbered. Downside of clobbering: dataloss Downside of opening a new tab: extra tab requiring cleanup. I also think the Mac menubar is rubbish for clobbering behaviours, since it's so disconnected from the window/tab that has focus, but my bias is that I hate the detached Mac menubar, so you should take that into consideration when considering my feedback. On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Nico Weber<[email protected]> wrote: > > Robert: How about grabbing a random person, setting them in front of > chromium, telling them "I need you to do some UX testing for me. This > is about testing the program and not about testing you, you cannot do > anything wrong. Up here we have the history menu. What would you > expect what happens if you click any of these recently closed items? > […] Now click it. Did what just happened make sense to you? Kthxbye", > and repeating this about 3 times? (for both behaviors) If all > participants feel the same way, go with that and cite "user experience > research". Should take < 20 minutes. > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Pam Greene<[email protected]> wrote: >> They always felt pretty different to me. In one case, I'm undoing something >> I did, and I expect the state to be restored to how it was. In the other, >> I'm initiating a new action, and I expect the behavior to be the same as for >> bookmarks. >> >> - Pam >> >> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Mike Pinkerton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> As a Chrome developer, I understand the difference, but "undo closed >>> tab" is just the most recent tab, where we have the 5 most recently >>> closed tabs in the history menu. From a user perspective, why should >>> one be different than the other? Why do I only get a new tab when I'm >>> undoing the last tab, and not 2 or 3 tabs ago? Just because in code >>> they're different, and that seems wrong. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Pam Greene<[email protected]> wrote: >>> > You want undo-close-tab for that use case, not history. The >>> > where-to-open >>> > behavior of undo-close-tab is completely different. Agreed that there's >>> > some >>> > overlap in usage, though. >>> > - Pam >>> > >>> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Mike Pinkerton >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> The few times I've needed to use the history menu (gak, i just closed >>> >> something by accident, let me get it back), re-using the current tab >>> >> is exactly what i don't want, as it clobbers something totally >>> >> unrelated that I had open. That's what prompted this discussion. >>> >> >>> >> I agree that it should behave like bookmarks in theory, since it's >>> >> effectively the same presentation, but it seems to get in the way of >>> >> my workflow when I try to actually use it. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Scott Violet<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > I would suggest you create something like browser/views/event_utils >>> >> > on >>> >> > the Mac (and Linux) side. Any place you're opening a URL from a user >>> >> > gesture you map the event to a WindowOpenDisposition. This way the UI >>> >> > is consistent with regards to what user gestures do. >>> >> > >>> >> > As to this particular case, I believe the default should be current >>> >> > tab. >>> >> > >>> >> > -Scott >>> >> > >>> >> > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Brett Wilson<[email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Avi Drissman<[email protected]> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> Brett— >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Are we talking about the history page, or history items? The >>> >> >>> history >>> >> >>> page >>> >> >>> gets its own tab, sure. But when someone picks an item from the >>> >> >>> history >>> >> >>> menu, where does it go? I think current foreground tab is right, >>> >> >>> with >>> >> >>> command for background tabs. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Yes, I was confused. I think clobbering is OK in that case. My new & >>> >> >> improved opinion is it should act like the drop-down on the >>> >> >> back/forward menus. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Brett >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Mike Pinkerton >>> >> Mac Weenie >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Pinkerton >>> Mac Weenie >>> [email protected] >> >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Chromium Developers mailing list: [email protected] View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
