I left this comment on http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=19879 but I'll reiterate here.
FWIW, the results from this statistics gathering really doesn't say anything about how many users are surprised or unhappy about how the selection interacts with the selection buffer in Linux. I mean, I kind of feel like this is akin to some keyboard manufacturer's rearranging of the Insert/Delete/Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys due to studies on what keys are "used most". They're throwing off conventions in the name of change for what people actually do the most, and end up just angering people. I am quite interested in finding out what the stats are of editing versus just pasting in new URLs, as I typically feel like I do editing, but even if it turns out that my use case is infrequent, I still feel like conventions should be followed. -JT On Aug 20, 4:25 pm, JT Olds <[email protected]> wrote: > Awesome, thanks guys. > > > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:20 PM, James Hawkins<[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Peter Kasting<[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:57 PM, James Hawkins <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > > >>> Will you accept opinions of the opposite? I love our current behavior > >>> and can't stand having to triple-click in Firefox. > > >>> Consider the following cases. > > >>> a) The user is trying to completely change the contents of the omnibox. > >>> - Current behavior: 1 click > >>> - Suggested behavior: 3 clicks > > >>> b) The user is trying to modify the contents of the omnibox. > >>> - Current behavior: 2 clicks > >>> - Suggested behavior: 1 click > > >>> I have no facts to back up this claim, but I'd say that 70% of > >>> operations are of the former (a), with the caveat that this is a > >>> conservative estimate based on my personal experience. > > >> I chatted with several people just now about the Mac behavior, since unlike > >> Linux, there aren't "blowing away my clipboard" concerns and it seemed to > >> me > >> that the argument above was compelling. According to pinkerton, the > >> behavior in Chrome Mac is not just to match Safari, Camino, or platform > >> conventions, but ultimately for the same reason that Camino decided to > >> place-cursor-on-click instead of selecting all: editing was thought to be > >> common enough that selecting all becomes frustrating. > >> To me something is wrong when we argue opposite (non-platform-dependent) > >> conclusions on different platforms, so I filedhttp://crbug.com/19879about > >> collecting some real-world data to inform this debate. If we found that > >> 99% > >> of user navigations followed replacing all the text, for example, I would > >> plead strongly with the Mac people to change their decision; if we found > >> that 50% of navigations involved editing, I would probably argue we should > >> reverse the Windows and Linux behaviors both. Of course, if we do get this > >> data, the numbers are unlikely to be so clear-cut. But we won't know until > >> then. > >> If anyone wants to contribute a patch to do this, it would be welcome... > >> PK > > > I absolutely agree. My 70% guesstimate was purely based on my own > > behavior, and I have no idea how it's used for the majority of users. > > Most of our UI decisions in the past have been based on user data, and > > this is another experiment we should set up. I'm willing to look into > > what's required to run this experiment. > > > -- > > James Hawkins --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Chromium Developers mailing list: [email protected] View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
