On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:05 PM, John Abd-El-Malek <[email protected]> wrote:
> But this means that the person didn't use the trybot.
> I think we need to be harsher on people who commit with changes that didn't
> complete or failed on the trybot.  They need to have a really good reason as
> to why they want to try their change on the buildbot and possibly delay many
> other engineers.

For the record, I completely support immediate backouts of changes
that break the tree, and agree that all changes should go through the
trybots -- but sometimes the trybots don't work. I don't know anything
about the architectural differences between the trybots and buildbots,
but from recent experience I think the trybots are trying to do
incremental builds, when that isn't guaranteed to always work.

If it's just a matter of throwing hardware at the problem of making
the trybots nearly 100% reliable I think we should make that
investment.

-Ken

> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Ben Goodger (Google) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> The most common case of "< 5 minute" bustage fix is "file was omitted
>> from changelist".
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Peter Kasting <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Ojan Vafai <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To be clear, here's the proposed policy: Any change that would close
>> >> the
>> >> tree can be reverted if it can't be fixed in <2 minutes.
>> >
>> > How about:
>> > If a change closes the tree, the change author has 1 or 2 minutes to
>> > respond
>> > to a ping.  The change should be reverted if the author doesn't respond,
>> > if
>> > he says to revert, or if he does not say he has a fix within the next 5
>> > minutes.
>> > I can't fix _any_ problem in 2 minutes.  But I can fix most of them in
>> > 5.
>> >  The goal is to allow the author a reasonable chance to fix trivial
>> > problems
>> > before we revert.  And I think the tree should go ahead and close during
>> > that interval.
>> > PK
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>

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