Jeremy, I have indeed looked at GWT. I'm starting to fiddle around with it. It's a great tool but the problem lies in the fact that you're coding in one language but generating code to another. Also it's obviously not going to be 100% compatible to Java so you can have cases where you have to embed javascript directly into the Java code in which case you still have to know all the intricacies of HTML/CSS/Javascript. It just seems like GWT is masking the problem not really solving it. Granted GWT is a HUGE step forwards (especially in combination with Ext GWT) in writing web apps (I wouldn't go near a web app without GWT) but it's still not clean. Ideally I would want to write and run the same code. My comment was more in the lines of having a JVM built right into the browser (in addition to the V8 Javascript VM) so that Java apps would look and feel like part of the web page. All that's really needed is the proper set of Java libraries to expose some of the integration aspects of embedding a JVM inside a web page. Netscape (back in the day) had libraries to communicate from a web page to an applet and vice versa. I'm sure in this day and age the integration could be a lot more advanced.
Thanks.. On Apr 2, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Jeremy Orlow wrote: > Have you taken a look at the Google Web Toolkit? You program in > Java and it takes care of all the browser specific details for you: > http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/ > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:03 PM, machead36 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Didn't seem like my first post went through, so here it is again... > > I just spent a few days putting up a simple website and it was the > most painful experience ever. Granted I haven't coded in HTML/css for > a long time but I have over 15 years of programming experience so this > shouldn't have been this difficult. Yet I haven't been so > frustrated. It goes to show that browser technology hasn't moved in a > long long time. Google Chrome is a fantastic browser but in the end > it's just another browser to add to the many that are out there > already. There's just too many variations between browsers and > platforms and their implementation of HTML/css. I can see this > getting even worse as we move to the cloud and start creating large > web applications. Are we to write 5 times the amount of code to > account for these variations? > > I would love to see a standard implementation for creating web apps. > Instead of just re-writing the Javascript VM how about incorporating > Java directly into the browser. I don't mean as just a stand alone > plug-in but as a component that behaves just like any other element in > the page and can interact with it. So if I re-size my page, the Java > component should re-size as well. So that it doesn't look like a > plug- > in and sit in some pre-defined area of the page. I would think that > this type of technology would further the web application space more > than anything. > > Just my $0.02. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Chromium Discussion mailing list: [email protected] View archives, change email options, or unsubscribe: http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-discuss -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
