> Positioning
> =========
> It seems like the y coordinate for the position is not necessary. I
> think we want to control the vertical positioning wrt the toolstrip.

I think it's desired to be able to make a drop-down feel like a
natural continuation of an element within the toolbar (think
combo-buttons) in which case you either need to specify the y
coordinate, or have a way to anchor to a specified DOM element.  The
former is probably easier and more flexible.

Cheers,
Jói


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Aaron Boodman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Sorry for the delayed reply as well. Some thoughts.
>
> Close behavior
> ===========
> Your proposal says that the popup closes when another window is
> focused. I think that when the developer opens the popup, they should
> specify one of two close behaviors: close-on-blur and
> close-on-mouseout. Close-on-blur would be like a normal OS menu: the
> popup closes when you click somewhere that isn't the menu or
> toolstrip. Close-on-mouseout would be the same but with mouseover
> (with some delay for mouse inaccuracy).
>
> I think this is especially important since we don't have an event API
> that would allow developers to implement this behavior. There's no way
> for them to detect clicks outside the toolstrip and popup area.
>
> Positioning
> =========
> It seems like the y coordinate for the position is not necessary. I
> think we want to control the vertical positioning wrt the toolstrip.
>
>
> Integration with browser actions
> ========================
> We need some. I think that my preference is that browser action popups
> are declarative (via the manifest) not programmatic.
>
> API
> ===
> * Agree with erikkay that only extension paths should be allowed, not any URL.
> * It should be possible to return the popup Window reference
> synchronously (like window.open() in the DOM) instead of via a
> callback
>
>
> - a
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Jeff Timanus <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments, Erik.
>> Responses inline below.
>>
>> 2009/9/21 Erik Kay <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the delay on feedback to your proposal.  This got lost in the
>>> shuffle.
>>>
>>> - I'm nervous about the absolute positioning use case.  I'd be tempted
>>> to remove this (or perhaps move it into a separate proposal).  What
>>> are some use cases you were envisioning here?
>>
>>
>> The main use case I envisioned was for implementing right-click handlers.
>>  If the pop-up had to be anchored to a DOM object, on right-click we would
>> have to dynamically create a new div and then anchor off of that.  Because
>> right-click handlers felt like a common usage-model for pop-up API's, I felt
>> that the inclusion of this mode worth-while.
>>
>>>
>>> - Why make left-right an argument?  The browser should know whether
>>> it's running in left-to-right or right-to-left.  Do you envision a
>>> place where the extension has one behavior and the browser another?
>>
>> Hmm.  You make a good argument.  I had callers of the absolute-mode
>> positioning would want fine-grained control on the layout of the pop-up
>> window.  In right-to-left environments, do right click dialogues also flow
>> from right to left?
>> For the sake of generalization, I think we could remove this flag, and have
>> the browser determine the direction in which the window will open.
>>
>>>
>>> - You mention that the contents of the popup can be any URL.  How
>>> would you feel if it were restricted to URLs within the extension?  If
>>> the extension really wanted web-hosted content, it could just use an
>>> iframe.
>>
>> I also considered this exact case.  Moles, at least the last time I looked,
>> allowed redirection to any page.  I think it would be reasonable to restrict
>> this API to extension-only pages.  Should the mole also be restricted in
>> this manner?
>>
>>>
>>> - I'm a little unclear about the need for a user-controllable resize
>>> widget.  Could you give some use cases?
>>
>> The resize widget was added to allow for hosting of dynamic
>> extension-specific search-result pages.  For example, the user expands the
>> window, and more results are shown.
>> I found that the window.resizeTo and window.resizeBy did not work in Chrome.
>>  Is there another way that we could easily allow the pop-up-hosted extension
>> page to control its size dynamically?
>>
>>>
>>> - In your abuse section, you mention a security concern about
>>> navigating to non-extension pages.  This is something that has already
>>> been addressed by the extensions system.  Privileges are granted by
>>> origin, not by the surface that's being rendered.
>>>
>>> - My take is that the default behavior should be to change its
>>> orientation if it would get clipped by the edge of the screen.  If it
>>> were important to maintain orientation in some cases, I suppose we
>>> could make this an argument.
>>
>> I think that's a reasonable approach.  Looking at the moles right now, they
>> do not pop-down if upon expansion they will be clipped by the edge of the
>> screen.  Will they also require this modification?
>>
>>>
>>> Erik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Jeff Timanus <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello Chromium-Extension developers & advocates,
>>> > In the interest of allowing for more advanced user-interfaces within
>>> > Chromium extensions, I've put together a proposal for for an API
>>> > allowing
>>> > the display of pop-up windows from within extension views.
>>> > Please see the publicly-shared Google-document here:
>>> >
>>> >  http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AWTKb4thI6aoZGdzYmpoNXpfMjJnYnZwcnJmMw&hl=en
>>> > Some of the key points I've tried to address:
>>> >  - No modal windows may be displayed.  All pop-up windows must be
>>> > dismissed
>>> > upon interaction outside of their view.
>>> >  - Easy integration with right-to-left environments.
>>> >  - Ease of communication between the pop-up window and the hosting
>>> > extension
>>> > view.
>>> > I look forward to the discussion and review process for this proposal.
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Jeff
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>

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