I understand, but the behavior doesn't seem right,
PHC device with nsec accuracy returns an error for 1 hour, and chrony refuses 
to replace the source to a usec accuracy NTP source?
This means chrony still "thinks" that an error response to a PHC device 
retrieved for 1 hour has better accuracy than NTP?  That doesn't make sense.
If I set the PHC device to return zero instead of a real time, it takes couple 
of seconds for chrony to identify the timing issue and replace the source to 
NTP. I think this behavior should occur with PHC device error also.
Maybe the "smallest interval" you mention is wrongly calculated on PHC error?
Or maybe the system clock which was synced to the PHC at first wasn't changed 
too much (small shift than NTP) after 1 hour of not getting PHC timestamps?
Thanks for assisting.


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On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 02:42:59PM +0000, Bernstein, Amit wrote:
> Reproduced the issue for 60 minutes
>
> $chronyc sources
> MS Name/IP address         Stratum Poll Reach LastRx Last sample
> ===============================================================================
> #* PHC0                          0   4     0   60m   -126ns[ -150ns] +/-   
> 87ns
> ^- gotoro.hojmark.net            2   9   377    38   +201us[ +201us] +/-   
> 67ms
> ^- animine.org                   2   8   375   242   +244us[ +244us] +/-   
> 78ms
> ^- mx.ack512.net                 2   9   377    45  +5665us[+5665us] +/-  
> 104ms
> ^- t2.time.bf1.yahoo.com         2   9   377    35  +2039us[+2039us] +/-   
> 38ms

The estimated maximum error of the PHC0 source here is best by 6 orders of 
magnitude. If it becomes unreachable, you woudln't normally want to immediately 
switch to the next best source. It's nanoseconds vs milliseconds.

> S Name/IP Address        Auth COpts EOpts Last Score     Interval  Leap
> =======================================================================
> * PHC0                      N ----- -----  63m   1.0 -3745us +3744us  N
> D gotoro.hojmark.net        N ----- -----  185   1.0   -53ms   +52ms  N
> D animine.org               N ----- -----  132   1.0   -69ms   +73ms  N
> D mx.ack512.net             N ----- -----  191   1.0   -99ms  +110ms  N
> D t2.time.bf1.yahoo.com     N ----- -----  182   1.0   -35ms   +40ms  N

After 1 hour it still has the smallest interval, so it is working as intended.

The FAQ has some suggestions on how to force a faster reselection if you need 
that.

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Miroslav Lichvar


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