Check out https://github.com/spencersalazar/libchuck. I've been meaning
to try it out, but haven't yet. It's exactly the kind of lib that should
be embeddable in an app. I think it needs someone to create a few simple
(cross-platform) examples.
Joel
On 01/14/2018 12:12 PM, Stuart Roland wrote:
I can't speak to the future of ChucK itself, but recently I have been
giving a lot of thought to MY future with Chuck. First off, I love
ChucK and all the cool stuff it let's me create. I find it much more
intuitive than any other audio programming language/environment I have
used and I can usually create something along the lines of what I set
out to create with it. My problem with it is that I really want to be
able to create stand alone apps and plugins with it, which I have not
found any way of doing. I would like for my software to be usable by
the average musician, not just by programmer-musicians who can read
ChucK code (though we are a cool bunch). I know ChucK Racks were just
released (for Macs,which I don't use) but as I understand, this just
let's you run ChucK scripts as a plugin, and does not provide a way to
wrap up the code in any UI to distribute to musicians who are used to
sliders, knobs, presets etc.
So I guess I have a few questions for everyone/anyone here: is there a
way to use ChucK in a mobile or desktop app? Is there a way to connect
ChucK to a GUI that is simple enough that non-programmers could use
it? If not, is there another language / libraries for another language
like python, for example, that has some of the great, intuitive design
as ChucK? Is ChucK more of an educational tool at this point and less
of a tool for developers?
Thanks for taking the time to read. Happy audio/music making!
Stuart
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1. Re: static strings and the future (JP Yepez)
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From: JP Yepez <jpyepez...@gmail.com <mailto:jpyepez...@gmail.com>>
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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:53:30 +1300
Subject: Re: [chuck-users] static strings and the future
Hello all,
I can't say much about the development part itself, but in my
experience I've noticed that ChucK is still being used widely at
an academic level. I understand it's being used in a few
universities that include creative technology programs and
computer orchestra courses in their curriculums, including
CalArts, Stanford, and VUW (New Zealand). Like Mario mentioned, it
is a core part of a few Kadenze courses; I've been involved as a
producer/teaching assistant in a couple of them and it seems like
it's a popular language among students who are just learning how
to code, and musicians who would like to develop more advanced
projects. Also, ChucK Racks popped up a couple of months ago,
which was pretty exciting. So yeah, I think there's quite a bit
going on, but it certainly would be nice to have a more active
community (I'm hoping to contribute, and hopefully I'll get to it
before too long).
About the *static strings* issue, I think they're kind of in a
shady spot. Like Gonzalo mentioned, you can't have static
non-primitives in your code, but there is a workaround to this by
declaring objects as a reference and then initializing them
outside of the class. However, if you try to do this with strings,
it will tell you that they're a primitive type and it throws an
error. The best hack I've found for this is through arrays (even
if the size of the array is 1 in many cases). Here's an example:
publicclassContainer{
staticstringstaticString[];
publicstaticvoidinit(){
newstring[1]@=>staticString;
"Hello World"@=>staticString[0];
}
publicstaticvoidprint(){
<<<staticString[0]>>>;
}
}
Container.init();
Container.print();
You don't really need an init() function, and you can initialize
the array on the actual script, but I usually end up with much
larger classes, which is why I like to keep things clean.
Hope this helps!
Best,
JP
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On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:19 AM, mario buoninfante
<mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com <mailto:mario.buoninfa...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to ask the same question about the development status.
the only thing I can say is that also if the development seems
to be a bit stuck, on the other side I noticed that they're
pushing on the educational side (see Kadenze courses), and if
you look at the github repository, there's been some update in
the last 2 years.
but as you guys said, it's important to know what's the plan ;)
it's a couple of years I'm really diving into ChucK and I
strongly believe that is a good programming language which
opens up a lot of possibilities that other languages don't.
but at the same time I feel like it's been a bit abandoned
(maybe that's a huge word, let's say put aside ;) ) and of
course using a "tool" which has an "uncertain future" it's
not the best thing.
I wish I was able to offer my contribution to the development,
but unfortunately I'm not really into C/C++, I'm more a
"scripting language guy" :)
btw, it would be nice to hear what developers and/or other
users have to say about it.
cheers,
Mario
On 12/01/18 22:14, Gonzalo wrote:
Yes, I'm wondering the same thing. There's a Facebook
group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1593843507578422/
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/1593843507578422/>) but
it doesn't look super active either.
As far as static strings: I'm pretty sure you just can't
have static non-primitives. What are you trying to achieve?
Cheers,
Gonzalo
On 13.01.18 00:20, Atte wrote:
Hi
I've been away for a long time and surprised that
activity seems to have slowed down a lot, both on the
development of new releases chuck and the life of this
list. Am I looking at the wrong places? What's the
status of chuck development now and in the future?
I really like chuck (mostly the timing and sporking
including Machine.add()), should I look other places
for a language that will privide a more secure future?
I'm on linux and looked at Csound, Super Collider and
PD, each has it's challenges in how I work (realtime
generative and algorithmic MIDI), python seems to have
realtime problems (garbage collection at random
points). Any idea what former chuck users have
switched to now?
Back to chuck! A problem that I never been able to
solve, static strings:
public class A {
"b" @=> static string B;
public static void C(){
<<<B>>>;
}
}
That throws an error, how would I go about what I'm
trying to do?
Cheers
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