On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Chris Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Bernd Fondermann > <[email protected]> wrote: >> If you feel this does not reflect our discussion on the private list, >> please feel free to correct it, but you did sign the report off back >> in April. >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2012 > > The discussion was in June, Bernd. In April, we saw the last release > as momentum that could pick up development. In June, we concluded that > retiring the podling was warranted because nothing had changed; if a > community developed outside the ASF, then we could revive it. The > report pivoted on information and conclusions that weren't discussed > with the rest of the PPMC and represented its position as unchanged.
That's not how I see things. There never was a VOTE, and AIUI there was discussion to do yet another release. >> There is no cost in waiting for Chukwa to gain more community. > > Not indefinitely. This incubation needs to wrap up. I disagree. There really needs to be no hurry. I've seen other podlings which where much more dead and are now graduating. > If patience and > optimism is rewarded, then that's fantastic, but the rest of the > PPMC's participation in the last six months has been limited to the +1 > to retire it after a release to establish licensing. > > Again, if there's cause to believe that will change presently: > *great*. But the report is problematic. It claims 5 new contributors, > but at least two of those were patches on private emails. It claims > there are no issues for the attention of the IPMC or board, despite > the undisputed fact that this project is held together by one > developer right now. I agree, the reports needs to be written more clearly. Bernd
