On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Alan Cabrera <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > >> I wonder which steps were taken by mentors, community and pmc to foster a >> community. I want to learn something from this case. Thanks. > > When we had our first retirement discussion early this year it was the > consensus that we would wait until the end of the year to see if anyone would > show up. The reasons for waiting were not entirely clear to me but there was > something about how the project was split off from Hadoop back in 2010. > > Anyway, Eric was enthusiastic at the time and so I personally figured, sure, > let's give it some more time and see what happens. > > We also added a few more committers with the hopes of infusing new blood into > the project. > > So, we waited for more than half a year and we added new committers. I know > we don't have a dysfunctional PPMC or committership; the current set of > members are great, just inactive. Now, if not a lot of people are interested > in the project itself then it's hard to whip up enthusiasm for people to > contribute. > > In previous podlings that I have mentored raising the specter of retirement > has brought lurkers out from the background and incentivized them to step up > and become active in the community. For Chukwa no such result occurred. > > So, what else can be done? We asked for plans or ideas from the PPMC and, as > I mentioned in voting thread, the discussion with the mentors involved only > one member of the PPMC. The other PPMC members were mute with the exception > of one member who stated that he'd be ok with it being put into the attic and > the project moving to GitHub. > > We could wait some more but we already did that and I don't think that it > will be productive given that the project is basically flatlined.
Chukwa has had a hard time and still has impediments which are unlikely to change anytime soon. Chukwa is based on HBase, which for a long time had no proper release, same with Hadoop. A lot of energy was lost. In the meantime, Flume came along and implemented a similar product. Now, we are seeing that main contributors have issues getting their patches through for non-Apache-related legal reasons. Some people don't give up hope even yet, which is quite honorable. I, however, don't expect that the situation improves in short or even medium term. Bernd
