To take Paul's comments further, it was perhaps more of a political and cultural domination from the 5th century in England, as opposed to a replacement or removal of people. The genetic marker that is associated with the Celtic / pre-Roman / British population is still very common in England.
In terms of Western European DNA, the R1b male (y chromosome) haplogroup is the dominant one, with the L-21 marker appearing to represent the Celtic migrations (late Neolithic). R1b-L21 is the predominant genetic marker in Ireland, Wales and Scotland. R1b is also the main haplogroup in England (making up about 75% of the modern-day population), with L21 appearing to be the main subclade. R1b-L21 represents 90+% of male dna in Ireland, and about 77% in Scotland. Another R1b subclade, U-106, is strong in eastern England and in the Anglo-Saxon homelands. R1b finds its lowest incidence in England in the area of East Anglia, but it is still 55-60% of the population. Again, some of this eastern R1b is of the U-106 variety which would be associated with the Angles and Saxons, along with other non-R1b haplogroups. Double-helix co-discoverer James Watson is a member of the U-106 subclade, btw. The majority of the English population, however, remains of the same stock that populated Scotland, Ireland and Wales in pre-Roman times. That's my understanding, anyway. 8-) Visit my page listed below and/or email me if you'd like to discuss further. Mike Campbell Halifax, Nova Scotia R1b-L21 http://web.me.com/soldierscove/Mike_Campbell/Genetic_Ancestry.html On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Paul Courtenay <[email protected]> wrote: > English means the Angles, Saxons and Jutes who started arriving in the > fifth century AD. British means the pre-Roman inhabitants, i.e. the Celts, > who were ultimately forced further to the west, specifically into north-west > Scotland, western Ireland, Wales, the Isle of Man and Cornwall; some even > migrated back to the continent, to what is now Brittany (hence Bretagne and > Grande Bretagne). > > Paul Courtenay > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "buzz ray" <[email protected]> > To: "ChurchillChat" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:54 PM > Subject: [ChurchillChat] Use of language > > > As an American, I have been totally impressed with Churchill's use of >> the English language. I have begun reading his History of the English >> Speaking People. In the early part of the work, he makes a >> distinction between English and British people in the period prior to >> the Viking invasion. Can someone explain to me the difference he has >> in mind. Does English refer to Saxons and British refer to the tribes >> in the North of the Island. At the time in question, the Romans had >> withdrawn so it does not seem that British refers to Romans living on >> the Island. >> >> Thank you >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "ChurchillChat" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<churchillchat%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en. >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 5119 (20100516) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChurchillChat" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<churchillchat%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en.
