That's a fantastic memory. Reminds me, to bring it back to WSC, of the anecdote about a friend of the recently deceased Winston.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=172525 "I immediately thought of my own grandfather, who, on a cold night in 1945, asked his son to show him where the great man lived. They were the only figures standing in Downing Street when a limousine pulled up unexpectedly and the great man emerged. Seeing my bearded grandfather standing in reverence under the street lamp, he turned, tugged off his famous Homburg hat and – with a slight bow – almost barked: 'Good evening sahr!'" On May 23, 11:10 pm, Carey Stronach <[email protected]> wrote: > This is slightly off topic, but I trust the chat group will allow me a > personal remembrance. > Eisenhower came to Raleigh, North Carolina, to speak in 1946. One of my > earliest remembrances was to go with my parents (and a huge crowd) to the > train station to greet Eisenhower. When he got off the train my father lifted > me up to see him. I waved and said "There he is." Ike smiled and waved back. > I was five, almost six years old then. > CES > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marcus Frost <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 24 May 2010 02:57:10 +0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Eisenhower's "Crusade in Europe" > > Hi Greg, > Hope you are doing well as I haven't seen you in a while. We have had so much > fun on our trips. > > To the matter at hand by your posting I would like to respond that it is very > neat how you came upon the book "Crusade in Europe" by Eisenhower. When I > bought mine, I read it in less than a week as well. It's neat that you read > the book your father bought in 1948. > > Decision making at the highest level? I bet Eisenhower had a change of heart > after he became President. From Military to Executive Branch is quite a jump! > But, we won the war! Now the Spoils! > > It has confused me forever how Churchill and Eisenhower (basically > Eisenhower) couldn't get along after the war when they should have been the > best of friends (Ike, President and WSC Prime Minister again). Dull, Duller, > Dulles. OK! (U.S. Politics). Who saw the way forward and who was right? One, > Both? Basically, it was just a mentality of carry-over after the conflicts of > command and decision making after the war in my opinion. Eisenhower had lost > respect in a way for Churchill because he wanted to be the man or take the > rein....ego! It was a natural progression. He thought it was his time (AND IT > WAS). > > Remember, when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, Eisenhower was at Fort Sam Houston > in San Antonio, Tx and Gen. Marshall told him to get his ass on a train to > Washington D.C. pronto, two days I might add. Churchill had been at war for > 18 months holding the line on Hitler. Eisnehower was to endure a couple of > years of "Gen. Marshall " training before his ego began to rise. Marshall had > basically picked these guys out. What good choices! > > To me the most induring legacy of all the U.S. Generals as well as all the > British Generals and Field Marshalls is how little Churchill smoked them in > his reviews. He strove to get every one of their attentions! "Pay attention > to Me!" Some did, some didn't! Usually, the one's who didn't got the most > attention because it allowed Churchill to have someone to argue with and > bounce his idea's on their opinions. > > Greg, I believe that Eisnehower's book is more than self serving. He was > however, the elected President Of the United States. I love WSC but I don't > know how we could have made it without Eisenhower or someone of his caliber. > > Best, > Marcus > > --- On Sat, 5/22/10, Gregory B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Gregory B. Smith <[email protected]> > Subject: [ChurchillChat] Eisenhower's "Crusade in Europe" > To: "ChurchillChat" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:14 PM > > For some unknown reason, I plucked Eisenhower’s “Crusade in Europe” from my > library the other day – it was a first edition my father bought in 1948 while > on vacation in 1948 in Durango , Colo. (I was 11) and which I inherited some > 25 years ago. I read it in less than a week. > > I found it to be eminently readable and was intrigued by the insight it gave > to decision making at the highest levels in WW II. > > Ever the gentleman, Ike was generous with his praise and miserly with his > criticisms, especially with respect to Churchill. > > The book certainly gives no feel for the challenges facing the enlisted man > as, for example, Martin Gilbert does in his WW II History. Although it is > clear that Ike had the highest regard and concern for the lowest infantryman, > the book is about Generals, Nations and major strategies. > > I am curious, however, about how this work is viewed by contemporary > historians and would like to hear from any on the listserv (amateur or > professional). Is it regarded as an important contribution to WW II history? > Is it regarded as honest or self-serving? Have any critiques of it ever been > published? Are his judgments on Churchill regarded as fair? > -- > Gregory B. Smith > 154 W. Spain St., Villa T > Sonoma, CA 95476 > 707 974-9324 > > Live dangerously, dread naught, all will be well. (W. S. 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