If I'm not mistaken, John Lennon's middle name was originally 'Winston' - named after WSC. I haven't verified this, but I believe that he may have had it legally removed. I don't have any idea what Lennon's motivation was. It doesn't necessarily mean that he hated Winston Churchill.
Stan ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Reardon To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill the pop star I fully agree with Rafal. I watched the video twice to make sure that I could find nothing offensive in the production. With the inadequate attention paid to the teaching of history in my country, Canada, and likely in most others, we have to find innovative ways to bring Churchill to the attention of the public - this video is one way. Also no doubt some viewers to the video might be intrigued enough to scroll down the videos on the right side of the screen where there are extracts from some memorable Churchill speeches, plus the delicious Orson Welles and Richard Burton stories of their encounters with Churchill. A couple of nights ago on a new TV show "Hot in Cleveland" the actress Betty White made a smart remark based on of our Hero's lines, with the inference that she just made it up - the English actress Jane Leeves responded "That was Churchill". Who knows someone may enquire as to "Who was Churchill". By the way talking of the Beatles, on the cover of one of their albums "Sgt. Pepper" they show small photos of people they admire - one was WSC. Terry Reardon Toronto, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Rafal Heydel-Mankoo To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Churchill the pop star Again, I disagree. I don't particularly care for the music...but my tastes are exclusively classical and jazz. Nevertheless, we should be mindful not to be old-fashioned and out of touch. I first discovered Churchill at the age of 10 whilst watching TV -- he was portrayed as a somewhat bumbling and grumbling mediaeval knight in a cheap, commercial Disney film in which a 1970s American travels back to King Arthur's Court. That portrayal was arguably more demeaning and more commercial than this silly video but it introduced me to Churchill's speeches and, at the impressionable age of 10, inspired me to learn more about him -- I joined the International Churchill Society at the age of 12 and my passion for the Great Man has never diminished -- all due entirely to a Disney parody. I imagine that most teenagers of today viewing this video (the target audience) would have a very different reaction to that of some Churchill Chat participants and many of them would find this speech (one of my favourites -- and which is how I stumbled upon this video in the first place) inspiring. It would certainly introduce them to Churchill for the first time and, given the current educational system, they might otherwise never encounter him. To me, that makes it a good thing. Indeed, upon reflection, although of no great artistic merit, this video could be regarded as a young artist's modern pop tribute to Churchill -- but, dare I say, some of us (and I include myself) are as removed from the youth culture of today (particularly British youth culture) as Churchill was from the Beatles and the 60s pop culture. I suppose this raises an important issue in terms of the Churchill Centre's Youth / Educational Outreach programme and the methods that might be used to introduce Churchill to those large segments of the young who may not be academically inclined, or who find history boring, but who could be inspired by his oratory. It is the incorporation of speeches into modern music (with the natural rhythm of oratory woven into the rhythm of the song) that has helped to interest teenagers in Martin Luther King and JFK and I do not see why the same could not be done for WSC. RHM > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill the pop star > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:31:07 +0200 > > It is indeed a disgrace that some people should be prepared to make money > with anything. > > Where is the "fun" ? > > The video is demeaning both for its "authors" and for those who enjoy this > sort of trash. > > A. Capet > Rouen (France) > ============== > > From: Thom > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Churchill the pop star > > > I was surprised by my reaction, shortly into the video, I just shut it off > and deleted it. I am open minded about most topics, not this one, nor an > appeal to forgive Hitler, Manson, nor Ted Bundy. > > Thom in Central NC. > > > From: William Thygeson > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:00 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] Churchill the pop star > > > I would hope that it doesn't amuse many. At best, it's a trivialization of > a great man's work in a time of crisis. > > Bill > > William Thygeson, Ph.D. > Assistant Vice President for Student Life > Jefferson School of Health Professions > Jefferson School of Nursing > Jefferson School of Pharmacy > Jefferson School of Population Health > Thomas Jefferson University > 130 S. 9th Street, Suite 708 > Philadelphia, PA 19107 > 215.503.8189 > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Rafal Heydel-Mankoo > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ChurchillChat] Churchill the pop star > > This may amuse some. Dance music DJ mixers have created songs which feature > mixes of Martin Luther King and JFK speeches. They have now created one > based on Churchill's "Great Declaration"....not to everyone's taste but > certainly a means of introducing the Great Man to another generation: See > video here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6jW9y59JY&feature=related > > > > Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games Play Now! > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChurchillChat" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChurchillChat" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChurchillChat" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/churchillchat?hl=en. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turn down-time into play-time with Messenger games Play Now! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChurchillChat" group. 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