This is really a two part question.  First, is when did the forward motion of 
the Axis stop and second, when did the forward motion of the Allies start?
 
I would say, in the West, it was Alamein and Torch.  In the Pacific, 
Guadalcanal for both.  In Russia, Kursk for the first, not sure about the 
second.
 
Jonathan Hayes

--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Major McKinley <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Major McKinley <[email protected]>
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Re: When did the tide turn?
To: "ChurchillChat" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:16 AM


Here's an interesting article I read recently on the fantastic
HistoryNet.com website, publishers of various history magazines.

What Was the Turning Point of World War II?
http://www.historynet.com/what-was-the-turning-point-of-world-war-ii.htm

Not exactly your question, but it goes with it. I was surprised nobody
cited the Battle of Britain as the war's turning point. I think it's
part of the historian bias against the Western Powers and feeling that
with all the blood spilled in the East, that Russia deserves the
title. But without Britain holding on, there would have been no aid to
the Soviets and no victory at Stalingrad. Since Churchill said,
"Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the
war," I'd argue that's what started lifting spirits, although there
was much hard fighting ahead. The failure to sweep the RAF from the
skies forced the Germans to postpone Operation Sea Lion indefinitely.
Although people continued predicting swift victory throughout the
later years, Churchill warned it would be a long slog and managed to
predict the war's end correctly much farther out down the line. (I
don't have the exact details handy, if anyone wants to add them.)

On Aug 2, 10:52 pm, EvanQ <[email protected]> wrote:
> When did people in England feel that World War II had turned in the Allies' 
> favor?  I'm reading the Official Biography, and the Documents and yes, all 
> the footnotes.  What I wonder about is the people who had survived the Great 
> War and died during WWII.  Some of them would have died with England hanging 
> on by a thread, and others with the feeling that England would eventually 
> triumph again.  What date/year/battle would that have been?
>
> Also, I've been struck by the number of people who were very anti-Winston in 
> the post World War I years, but who served in his Government during WWII.  
> Can anyone point me to a book or article discussing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Evan

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