I remember reading (it may have been in William Manchester's "The Last Lion")
that Karsh asked the great man to remove his cigar from his mouth prior to
taking the photograph. Churchill declined, so Karsh simply reached out and
removed it for him. Churchill scowled and Karsh snapped the first photo. A
moment later, Churchill, realizing that he had been bested, smiled, and Karsh
took the second shot.
On Saturday, July 18, 2015 5:03 AM, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Ms Finnegan,
Thanks to the excellent index, as usual, I was able to find the relevant
passage almost immediately : it runs from p.131 to p.135.
Incidentally, reading that passage again, I noticed that Sir Martin suggests
that Ralph Wigram died of polio (bottom of p.133).
But in the excellent TV series, _The Wilderness Years_* (for which I seem to
remember that Sir Martin was historical adviser),
Ralph Wigram is shown as committing suicide.
Any lights from List Members on this apparent contradiction ?
Best wishes,
A.C.
*Easily available on DVD, and unreservedly recommended
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From: Pat Finnegan
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Re: stories in 'In Search of Churchill'
Hello, Professor Capet--
I think there was one story about how Sir Martin tracked down a man who had
secretly given Churchill some reports about what
Hitler and the Nazis were doing during the 1930s--without PM Chamberlain's
knowledge. The man was afraid that he would be
killed--or at least seriously injured--if the truth came out.
I don't remember if Sir Martin mentioned the man's name, or gave him a
pseudonym. But the gentleman was afraid--even after more
than several decades!
Now I'll have to re-read 'In Search of Churchill' again!
(Ms.) Pat Finnegan
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:01 PM, 'Antoine Capet' via ChurchillChat
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Ms Finnegan,
When you write "the stories of how he tracked down so many of Churchill's
colleagues were both very amusing--and something of a
'spy novel'!" I do not know which is your favourite.
For my part, I was left speechless when I read how he had "tracked down" the
estate agent (realtor, I think, in American English)
who negotiated the transaction for Chartwell - so many years after the event !
This is definitely my favourite story in the book.
Best wishes,
A.C.
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From: PatFinn1940
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 8:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Another Image of Churchill
I have that 'warmer' photo by Karsh on my copy of Sir Martin's one-volume
Churchill biography (it was the first book Sir Martin
sent me, after we began our correspondence in 2006). It's one of my favorite
Churchill photos. I wonder how Karsh got him to
smile for it, after the 'scowling lion' one was taken?
And you are right about 'In Search of Churchill' being a 'masterpiece'. It
helped a lot with the background of how the young
Martin Gilbert became the 'official' biographer after Randolph Churchill's
death. And the stories of how he tracked down so many
of Churchill's colleagues were both very amusing--and something of a 'spy
novel'!
(Ms.) Pat Finnegan
On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 4:47:32 PM UTC-4, Antoine Capet wrote: Dear Terry,
No harm done in anglicising Adolf - except that the custom among historians is
to anglicise the (first) names of kings, emperors
and popes : perhaps too great an honour for "that man".
On a more serious note :
I was struck when recently reading the late Sir Martin's masterpiece, _ In
Search of Churchill_ (by the way, many thanks to the
List Members who wrote it was priority reading - they were absolutely right)
that he said why he had rejected that world-famous
portrait in favour of a warmer one (albeit also by Karsh at the same session)
for the photograph on his dust cover. Was he
influenced by Clementine's opinion (which he no doubt knew) ? - that will
remain forever an interesting question.
Best,
A.C.
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From: Terry Reardon
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 9:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] Another Image of Churchill
OOPS!
Before someone comments - of course it should be Adolf.
Terry Reardon
From: Terry Reardon
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ChurchillChat] Another Image of Churchill
We clearly know the opinion of Winston and Clementine on the Graham Sutherland
painting, but what was their opinion of the
“Roaring Lion” photograph by Yousuf Karsh?
While to the best of my knowledge Winston Churchill is not on record as having
given an opinion, we do have his reaction by way of
Clementine. As I said in my book (take every opportunity!) on Churchill &
Mackenzie King, the diary of King of May 6, 1944
recorded a conversation with Clementine. “She (Clementine) does not like the
Karsh picture, neither does Churchill himself. She
said ‘He really has a more playful expression about his mouth.’”
Now I wonder if Adolph Hitler ever commented on it!
Terry Reardon
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