I would love to buy a copy. I only hope I live long enough to do so.
Jonathan Hayes
From: Lee Pollock <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] River War Publication
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{}#yiv3709950052 On behalf of The Churchill Centre, I would like to offer some
comments on the various recent messages regarding Jim Muller’s edition of The
River War. I cannot speak directly for Jim and/or the publisher and certainly
this work has been in process for a long time. That said, I hope we all
recognize and remember what an enormous effort is involved in producing this.
The St. Augustine website aptly notes: Editor James W. Muller’s more than
fifteen years of research adds thousands of new footnotes identifying people
who figure in The River War, explaining Churchill’s references to other books
and events, tracking down the original dispatches and illustrations, and
establishing a text that encompasses all variations in previous editions. Jim
has been working assiduously on this for some years, while teaching full-time
as well as remaining involved in and highly supportive of many other things in
the Churchill world, including the work of the Centre. We are most grateful
for his continued support. Again, I can’t speak specifically for either Jim or
St. Augustine but I would caution against the thought that the long time frame
is the publisher’s fault or that they have somehow been deliberately dragging
this out. The suggestion that there should be a change of publisher is easy
to make but in a challenging publishing environment generally, this is a niche
product and having someone else step up is easier said than done, even if that
were desirable. I don’t know the nature of Jim’s arrangements with St.
Augustine but I don’t think it’s correct suggest that they “commissioned” him
to produce this or that they provided some significant advance for it. (Jim
would probably say, “would that were so…”) I hope this clarifies the situation
and I will ask Jim to provide any updates he can on the timing of publication.
This will be a landmark in Churchill books and I hope all of the members of
this Chat Group will buy a copy. It will surely be worth having and reading.
Thanks. Lee Lee PollockExecutive DirectorThe Churchill Centre(312)
[email protected]
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] River War Publication So River War is still under
copyright. Jonathan Hayes From: Allen Packwood <[email protected]>
To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] River War Publication British copyright law in
published material is 70 years from the date of the death of the author. Allen
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: 19 October 2015 16:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] River War Publication Not sure about British
copyright laws but anything published in the US prior to 1923 is out of
copyright and in the public domain. Hillsdale College has been reprinting a lot
of the official biography companion volumes. Wonder if they'd be interested?
Jonathan Hayes From: 'Mark Lowrey' via ChurchillChat
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] River War Publication Even a Taiwan bootleg
edition would suffice. -----Original Message-----
From: Dave Turrell <[email protected]>
To: churchillchat <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 18, 2015 7:01 pm
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] River War PublicationIt’s been going on for at
least 11 years to my personal knowledge. As the Texans might say, this would
appear to be a publisher that is all hat and no cattle… or, as we Brits might
prefer it, all mouth and trousers. Their lesser known publication of Savrola
remains equally ethereal. My guess would be if Prof. Muller was paid to do the
editing and annotation work then St. Augustine’s is pretty much bullet-proof in
their choice as to when or if to publish it. I see no reason, however, that
the vanilla text of The River War should not be republished as is – I cannot
imagine that St. Augustine’s bought the copyright to that. If it can be done
then it would be a great service to Churchill bibliography – the full text has
not been published since the first edition of 1899/1900. Dave From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 5:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ChurchillChat] River War Publication St. Augustine's Press still has
The River War under "Forthcoming Books", yet still no publication date. This
has been going on for a donkey's years - has Prof. Muller considered dropping
these people and going with some publisher who's actually willing to publish?
It would seem that if he has a contract that St. Augustine's Press' lack of
performance would be sufficient reason to abandon ship. Just a thought.
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