It happens from reply or new mail. Some are also also directed to  
paypal.

Keeps me off the list ...

Peace,
Om
K

On Oct 1, 2005, at 9:22 PM, Bob wrote:

> Amazingly this was accepted by yahoo list server as if
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is subscribed to cia-drugs,
> not to mention as if you as sender are @amaz.
>
> Did you use Reply or Forward? That could have mixed
> in the old headers from the amazon auto-responder
> again and then yahoo list server might be incompetent
> again a second time.
>
> Technically, an incompetent mail server may read only
> the first "From:" header, or elsewise read the wrong
> "From:" header. You can avoid this by not using Reply
> or Forward, use Write instead, then it will only have
> your From header, and then paste the amazon crap
> in and flush crap to yahoo toilet and see if it pukes.
>
> -Bob
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>>> Howdy folks,
>>>>>
>> Some very interesting things have been happening. Some of these have
>> been happening for months, but I have just been busy with one  
>> thing or
>> another have been bulling through.  My computer and our server have
>> been under attack. And, much has been happenig to disrupt my
>> interaction with my lists, [email protected],  
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Below is one example -- where my posts are somehow directed to  
>> amazon.
>> I am and have been getting bounced off of lists that I "own" and run,
>> daily, sometimes several times a day. I have changed mail programs,
>> etc. and the "problems" persist. Nary it be for me to suspect anythin
>> untoward is happening regarding these communication difficulties. But
>> I do find it interesting.
>>
>> Please let it be know that I have been sending out much to my various
>> list that doesn't arrive.
>>
>> Does any one have any ideas of why and how my emails are being
>> directed to this amazon ruse?
>>
>> Peace,
>> Om
>> K
>>
>>
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>> Greetings from Amazon.com.
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>> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 10:27:12 -0700
>> From: Robert Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Cia-drugs Cia-drugs <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [cia-drugs] Hammer to the Slammer -- Cruisegate: Curtains  
>> for
>> the GOPMOB
>>
>>
>> Hammer to the Slammer -- Cruisegate: Curtains for the GOPMOB
>>
>>
>>
>> September 30, 2005-Venice, FL.
>> by Daniel Hopsicker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The investigation into the 4-year old murder of Sun Cruz Casino boat
>> founder Konstantinos Gus Boulis in Fort Lauderdale has begun t
>>
>>
>> o reveal hidden connections between Republican lobbyist Jack
>> Abramoffs gargantuan fund-raising machine, essential to victory in
>> the past two Presidential elections, and a cast of underworld
>> characters not previously thought of as exemplifying what have come
>> to be known as Republican family values.
>> The indictment of three men Tuesday in the Boulis "hit" exposes an
>> unholy alliance in Florida between the national Republican party and
>> the Mob, details of which were first reported in the
>> MadCowMorningNews three months ago (The Secret World of Jack
>> Abramoff: Terrorists, Torpedoes and Republican Muscle).
>>
>> More indictments are expected soon.
>>
>> The trail of suspicion leads directly to Abramoffs doorstep: the
>> three names already released clearly implicate Adam Kidan, the Casino
>> lines erstwhile President, in the crime, who wrote checksduh-
>> uh!for over $250,000 to one of the indicted men, Gambino goombah
>> Anthony Big Tony' Moscatiello, 67, of Howard Beach, N.Y, for no
>> easily discernible reason.
>>
>>
>> Bush's Biggest Backer: Chief "Stands with Pair"
>>
>> Although lawyers for Abramoff and Kidan, who face trial Jan. 9 on
>> fraud charges, have repeatedly said neither man knows anything about
>> Boulis' murder, since Kidan was hand-picked by Abramoff to run the
>> unregulated collection of a dozen ships operating off the coast of
>> Florida, Abramoff may even now be wondering who it might be safe to
>> roll on if and when hes indicted for murder.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Abramoff, of course, is best known as the target of a federal
>> investigation in Washington into the tens of millions in fees he
>> collected from casino-owning Indian tribes. But the wreckage from his
>> brief and tumultuous time as owner of the gambling fleet threatens to
>> overtake his Washington legal troubles.
>>
>> The breathtaking scope of Cruisegate could make it the biggest
>> American political scandal since Iran Contra. Should its tawdry
>> details fully come to light, it might eclipse even the Watergate
>> Scandal.
>>
>> Already, the dramatis personae includes a familiar name from previous
>> scandals: Barry Seal, called the ghost haunting the Whitewater
>> investigation by the Wall Street Journal, who was himself murdered
>> on orders, according to his own lawyer's testimony, of then-Vice
>> President George Bush.
>>
>> continued below
>>
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>> GOP, Osama agree: Heroin is King
>>
>> 20 years ago Seal helped set in motion, as well see shortly, the
>> chain of events leading inexorably towards today's scandal, which
>> we're dubbing "Cruisegate," illustrating the ongoing and even
>> generational nature of what sociologists call state-sponsored
>> crime.
>>
>> Newsday reported on July 15, 2001, over four years ago: As the
>> Florida detectives follow path after path, the investigation seems
>> always to lead back to three men: a former Long Island bagel store
>> owner whose mother was killed by gangsters but who strongly denies
>> any involvement, a Howard Beach caterer reputed to have organized
>> crime ties and a New Jersey guy who likes to brag he's mob boss John
>> Gotti's nephew.
>>
>> So one big question is: why didn't the indictments come down sooner?
>>
>> In any event two of the three men referenced have now been indicted,
>> leaving only bagel boy Adam Kidan remaining so far uncharged in the
>> crime. Here's a little back-story on the case...
>>
>> Jack Abramoff led a group of three men who formed an ownership group
>> that apparently made Boulis the proverbial offer he couldnt refuse.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They bought Sun Cruz from him, even though it wasn't for sale.
>>
>> One time-honored way to get rich is to marry money. Another is to
>> kill someone that has it. In this case it appears that Gus Boulis,
>> owner of the lions share of the casino boats in Florida, had to die
>> first.
>>
>> The professional hit on Boulis figured prominently in lobbyist
>> Jack Abramoffs rise to power to become the GOPs chief money man.
>>
>> Adding insult to injury, after wresting control, SunCruz's new owners
>> refused to pay Boulis.
>>
>> Then, adding injury to insult, several months after being
>> unceremoniously muscled out, Boulis, a 51-year-old Greek immigrant
>> who had founded both Sun Cruz and the popular Miami Subs chain, was
>> shot to death at the wheel of his BMW sedan on Feb. 6, 2001, after
>> leaving his office.
>>
>>
>> "Everyone needs a few unregulated sources of income."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Boulis was driving his BMW down a quiet side street after an evening
>> meeting at his Fort Lauderdale office when a car slowed to a stop in
>> front of him. A second car boxed the BMW in from behind. Then a dark
>> Mustang appeared from the opposite direction, and as the Mustang
>> pulled alongside its driver pumped three hollow-point bullets into
>> Boulis chest.
>>
>> Florida casino gambling insider Robb Tiller, one of the fathers of
>> the Indian gambling industry (today another pillar of Abramoffs
>> empire) pointedly referred us to the manner of the Boulis hit,
>> stating, Boulis was murdered in the exact same way as Don Aronow,
>> Bushs other partner.
>>
>> Bushs other partner? We didn't even have to ask it. The question
>> hung in the air.
>>
>> Something is really going down bad here, Tiller continued.
>> Don Aronow. Gus. Jim Shore All tied in to Bush.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> (Jim Shore was a top executive of the Seminole Tribe of Florida, the
>> states preeminent casino operators.)
>>
>> In our earlier story we asserted the belief that as the scandal
>> embroiling House Major Domo Tom Delay and Republican lobbyist Jack
>> Abramoff grows hotter, it will yield new revelations about the 9.11
>> attack.
>>
>> What does a scandal involving Indian casinos, gambling boat cruises
>> to nowhere in Florida & pay-for-play government officials have to
>> do with the story of 19 hijackers planning a mass murder in supposed
>> isolation?
>>
>>
>> Hint: Atta wasn't playing blackjack.
>>
>> One clue: Ringleader Mohamed Atta made a still-unexplained visit
>> onboard one of Abramoffs casino boats less than a week before the
>> attack.
>>
>> A bigger clue: the man who owned the flight school favored by Atta
>> and so many other terrorists had his Lear jet surrounded by DEA
>> agents brandishing submachine guns on the runway of Orlando Executive
>> Airport in July of 2000, the same month Atta began "training" at his
>> flight school. They found 43 pounds of heroin onboard. For flight
>> school owner Wally Hilliard, it was a 'blemish,' though not as yet
>> one for which he has been asked to go to prison.
>>
>> Several of the principals in the Boulis hit also have heroin
>> trafficking backgrounds. What a surprise. Most of the world's heroin
>> comes from Afghanistan, which used to known as OsamaLand.
>>
>> So we believe our Abramoff/9.11 prediction will prove accurate. We
>> suspect this may be one reason we don't get asked to appear on
>> Hardball (or almost anywhere else.) We groused once about this
>> "invisible" status once to a lifetime member of our nation's
>> clandestine forces.
>>
>> "Look at it this way," he responded with equanimity. "At least they
>> let you live."
>>
>> Its a better deal than poor Gus Boulis got.
>>
>> "Look at it this way..."
>>
>> We learned of Barry Seals peripheral involvement in the story while
>> perusing the records of the three men indicted so far. Amazingly,
>> Seal, a long-time CIA pilot who government prosecutors said was at
>> one time the biggest drug smuggler in American history, was
>> indirectly responsible for the 1983 federal prosecution for heroin
>> smuggling of "Big Tony," one of the three men so far indicted in
>> Boulis death.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> While the details are admittedly tangential to the Boulis
>> assassination, they are useful in illustrating the secret
>> history of the rise to power of connected individuals
>> friendly to the current Bush Administration.
>>
>>
>> "Meat-based life forms dominate the planet."
>>
>> Anthony Big Tony Moscatiello was one of eight Gambino
>> associates, including Gene Gotti, brother of John Gotti, then head of
>> the Gambino family, who federal prosecutors charged with operating
>> a massive narcotics importation and distribution ring that
>> brought heroin from Southeast Asia to Florida and New York.
>>
>> At his trial the major witness against him was Alfred Dellentash Jr.,
>> a pilot who flew marijuana from 1980 to 1981 for Gambino captain
>> Salvatore Ruggiero. Salvatore died young, in a suspicious Lear jet
>> 'accident' off the coast of Savannah, GA. in 1982 which the NTSB
>> found puzzlingly inexplicable.
>>
>> Upon his demise, his brother, Angelo Ruggiero, a close associate of
>> John Gotti, took over the operation. His sponsor dead, according to
>> court documents Dellentash then agreed to cooperate with
>> authorities... but only  after he himself had been arrested on drug
>> trafficking charges.
>>
>> He'd gone to Barry Seal's hometown of Baton Rouge, La early in 1983
>> to purchase 55 kilograms of cocaine, not knowing that Seal himself at
>> that time was "rolling" on various and sundry individuals to wriggle
>> out of the major drug bust in Miami he'd been caught in.
>>
>> Both Seal and Dellentash were engaged in what is known in law
>> enforcement circles as working off a beef, which is like a game
>> of musical chairs where the man left standing when the music stops
>> (in this case "Big Tony") does some hard time.
>>
>>
>> "A dunsky, sure... but not no fucking dunsky."
>>
>> Working off a beef would have been right up the busy Dellentash's
>> alley: When not flying narcotics, he was managing Meat Loaf's show
>> business career. In fact, after a falling out, as happens in show
>> biz,  he ended up owning Meat's-- Mr. Loaf's--Connecticut mansion,
>> Meatloaf Manor.
>>
>> (Its' all true, except for the "MeatLoaf Manor" part. We don't know
>> what he called it, but "home" seems a little plain for an $8.1
>> million spread.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The men ''reported directly to a man by name of John Gotti, who was a
>> lieutenant or a capo in this family, said the prosecutor, Robert P.
>> LaRusso.
>>
>> While the drug operation was being conducted, the Gambino family was
>> headed by Paul Castellano, who was opposed to drug dealings. This
>> family had a prohibition,'' LaRusso told the court. 'The ultimate
>> sanction of death would be upon their members' heads if they dealt in
>> drugs.
>>
>> Like the problem of Gus Boulis, this was a problem easily
>> remedied, and Castellano was shortly thereafter sleeping with the
>> fishes.
>>
>> Interestingly, also arrested in the heroin trafficking case was a man
>> named Oscar Ansourian, who was also charged with hiding a cache of
>> weapons in the basement at his Howard Beach home which included U.S.
>> Army-issued rockets and launchers.
>>
>>
>> General, meet Guido. Guido, meet Osama.
>>
>> Big Tony Moscatiello has one other colorful distinction worth
>> mentioning...
>>
>> In taped conversations introduced at John Gottis various trials
>> which revealed Gotti's ruthless control over his crew, Gotti was
>> memorably heard screaming death threats at an underling for
>> insubordination.
>>
>> Big Tony was that unfortunate underling.
>>
>> Gotti: ''Listen, I called your (expletive deleted) house five times
>> yesterday; now if your wife thinks you are a (expletive deleted)
>> dunsky or if she's a (expletive deleted) dunsky and you're gonna
>> disregard my (expletive deleted) phone calls, I'll blow you and that
>> (expletive deleted) house up.''
>>
>> Gotti: ''And you get your (expletive deleted) ass down here and see
>> me tomorrow.''
>>
>> Moscatiello: ''I'm gonna be there all day tomorrow.''
>>
>>
>> "The Juice Is Loose... and he's got experience, too."
>>
>> Clearly, being called a f-cking dunsky had had a salubrious
>> effect on Moscatiello, who appears to have vowed to straighten up
>> and fly right.
>>
>> Big Tony, is not to be confused with another of the men arrested
>> on murder solicitation and conspiracy charges in the case, Anthony
>> Little Tony Ferrari, 48, of Miami Beach.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> While there has as yet been no word on whether the third man
>> indicted, 28-year-old James Pudgy Fiorillo, is Big Pudgy
>> or Little Pudgy, we feel confident Court TV will have the answer
>> when the case comes to trial.
>>
>> As if the case were not already redolent with unsavory associations,
>> there is a fourth man referenced in the indictment named Dwayne
>> Nicholson. Nicholson is a bouncer at The Living Room, a Miami Beach
>> night club, which just happens to be a favorite haunt of the world's
>> most famous double murderer: Miami resident O. J. Simpson.
>>
>> The big question here is: What are Christian politicians doing with
>> people who think changing a company's management is a matter of--not
>> putting up a new slate of directors--but calling in "Big Tony?"
>>
>> Answer: They're flying around on the company's Lear jet (if its not
>> engaged in more 'important' pursuits) to the Super Bowl and the U.S.
>> Open in Pebble Beach.
>>
>> The Lord, it seems, helps those who help themselves.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>   "Threats of law suits against journalists have become the hallmark
>> of the Bush administration in their not-too-clever tactic to silence
>> the independent media in the United States." --Wayne Madsen
>>
>> Censorship by lawsuit happens if we can't stay current with our ever-
>> growing legal bills. And probably we will always be being sued...at
>> least if we're doing it right. Please help us continue by making a
>> donation directly into our defense fund.
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