And again you never answer direct questions.
"Sean/John" if George Bush is truly a Christian Zionist and in direct opposition to his father, is this just a little squabble or a big one?
Does GW claim his Elliot Abrams and Dick Cheney trump GHW's Baker, Carlucci, etc.,?
What are the turkey dinner dynamics at Kennebunkport?The show of solidarity is to fool who? The controlled media? Us people? The neocons? The Russians? The ...
Crack pot theories? Now "Sean," you peddle some of the most outrageous ones. Here is one: "There a tremendous power struggle currently underway between the traditional foreign policy elite and the neoconservatives -- this has been the major story during the Bush 43 administration -- the titanic battle between these two factions, which is still unfolding."
A titanic battle? GHW Bush & crew versus his poor neocon brainwashed demented son?
Again if it is such a battle, do George HW and George W use different banks?
Will "Sean/John" ever answer a question? Peace, Kris Millegan trineday.com On Sep 11, 2007, at 7:51 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
The Israel lobby is NOT Israel or the Israeli people or "the Jews." The Israel lobby is a faction within the Jewish world which these days is largely populated by non-Jews -- many of them Christian fundamentalists, Christian Zionists and Christian Armageddonists, like John Hagee. Neoconservatives are the cutting edge of the Israel lobby; neoconservatives have dominated the Bush 43 administration and were the chief architects and ringleaders of the Iraq War. Anyone who is not focusing on the neocons and the Israel lobby in contemporary American politics is missing the big story. The Israel lobby -- AIPAC and DLC in particular -- is the main reason why the Democrats have enabled neoconservative policies every step of the way and refuse to stop the Iraq War, in defiance of the democratic will of the American people.George W. Bush is a Christian Zionist and neocon tool who is in fact in severe conflict with the agenda, mindset and values of the Bush 41 inner circle. A great deal has been written on this subject by persons with much higher level access to the power elite than you will ever acquire -- Sidney Blumenthal, for instance (who also happens to be an extremely bright Jew). You fail to understand any of this because you have the mentality of a religious fundamentalist. I realized a long time ago that discussing these issues with you is a waste of time -- you simply don't get it and never will. Crackpot conspiracy theorizing is low- grade political porn -- useless stuff -- and it's your stock in trade.Analyze the funders and members of Freedom's Watch -- the latest hardcore manifestation of the neocon drive to keep the Iraq War rolling ever onward, according to the Clean Break paper written for Benjamin Netanyahu back in 1996. Nearly all of them are deep into the social/financial network of the Israel lobby -- not any other lobby -- oil, arms, or otherwise. The only lobby on the American scene which is now agitating to expand the Iraq War to Iran is the Israel lobby, in combination with Christian Zionists and Christian Armageddonists. Power elite members from the realist tradition think the concept is utterly insane and would be ruinous for their interests and for the interests of all Americans.What does all this have to do with 9/11? Everything. The neocons needed a "New Pearl Harbor" to serve as a pretext to use American military power to smash the Arab and Muslim worlds, including OPEC, and to achieve their dream of building Eretz Yisrael (Greater Israel).From where do I get my information? I've named 70 specific news feeds I monitor regularly, and listed over 100 books on this subject on my Google Book site. I've also known some of the key players in this horror show.RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:"Sean," you are splitting hairs here and then go for soft positions whenever anybody questions you.What are all your Israeli lobby lists about?What about the big fight between elite factions, where GHW is on one side and his son GW are on the other? You have stated that this "fight" is very real.And again, "Sean" you never answer questions. Why? And what have you done? Peace, Kris Millegan trineday.com On Sep 11, 2007, at 6:50 PM, Sean McBride wrote:More lies: I've repeatedly said that Israel DIDN'T do it. Israel doesn't control the American military-industrial complex, or NORAD, or the FBI, etc. A small faction within the Israeli government may have played in a role in 9/11 in combination with factions within the American, British and Australian governments (and perhaps even other governments -- Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc.) But all of this is unknown to date. We can only speculate about who controlled 9/11. Neocons are leading suspects, but neocons come from all over the ethnic and religious map. Most (probably all) neocons are militant Zionists in some sense, but quite a few of them are clearly using Israel and Zionists for their own non-Israeli and non-Jewish purposes. A few of them are probably antisemites.This discussion is going way over your head because you are unable to make fine distinctions on any subject. You never bothered to get an education, and the skills and discipline required to do real research. Instead you took a great deal of psychedelic drugs which have messed up what limited ability you had to work with in the first place. Now we behold the results. Not in Syd Barrett territory yet, but getting close.RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trying to pull your fat out of the fire? Now, I am a stalker? What has "Sean McBride" contributed to 9-11 research?Nothing but divisiveness, name-calling and the mantra of Israel did it.Some of my contributions directly to 9-11 research have been to host several email list, typeset, sell, get into Barnes & Noble, Daniel Hopsicker's fine book Welcome to Terrorland. I took some of the video and did some of the interviews for Hopsicker's Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Service. I publish Fighting for G.O.D. (Gold, Oil and Drugs) which also documents the elite's crime of 9-11. Plus many other books that expose the criminal behavior and corruption within our body politic.I do not deny the influence of the Israeli lobby, never have, but you sir use rhetoric to create false dialectics.Again, "Sean" what have you done using a false name on the Internet? please state one valid accomplishment.Peace, Kris On Sep 11, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Sean McBride wrote:You came here because you are a delusional stalker and paranoid schizophrenic who feels a compulsion to discharge your mental illness. That's the beginning and end of it.You're contributions to 9/11 research have been worthless. In fact, I can't think of a single statement you have made on any subject which bears any connection to reality.RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's fine, say all you want. If you want to laugh and not read that's OK to, but it speaks volumes. And by what you have said here denotes that you know very little of what I say or my understandings. I just came here to expose John F. Berlet's use of "Sean McBride," not to debate anonymouses over bullooney. Peace, Kris Millegan On Sep 11, 2007, at 3:03 PM, shooter586 wrote:> Actually, your "research" is just as light-hearted as Sean's. I saw> your "webpage" and laughed too hard to stay there. > > The fact that you CTistsd are fighting is like seeing the "no- > planers" fight with other CTists. >> You are using arguments that have ZERO link to the scientific theory> or method. You use terms that ouu know nothing about. You are > pointing fingers at CIA and Mossad as if you have ANY knowledge of > them. >> This is very typical with factions within each CT. I bet if I asked > you to provide a single fact about the CIA's operations in the last> decade, you will come up enpty. >> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], RoadsEnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> >> No, "Sean" is a spook, make no mistake. There is method in his >> actions and ... results. That is why I step up and expose him. >> >> It is funny because you are using some of Berlet's own words > against >> him, but it just a false dialectic argument. >> >> Conspiracy and the corruption happening in our political and > economic>> world are NOT happening because of some deep-seated emotional need> or >> fears of mine or many of the others. We have actually done > research >> and confirmed the fact of these corruptions. >> >> This very real corruption of our body politic is happening >> because ... they can ... and do. >> >> Peace, >> Kris Millegan >> On Sep 11, 2007, at 1:44 PM, shooter586 wrote: >> >>> He is hardly a spook. A "spook" would have a very basic > understanding >>> of the topics they talk about. He is just the rambling type that >>> needs to make everyone else fearful of his own inane fears. This > way, >>> he doesn't look like such an outcast. Also, why he is forced to > post >>> 24/7 from his bedroom. >>>>>> You will notice most of his lists are premade and pasted. He just >>> posts them over and over again terying to get people to respond to >>> him. He is very easily lead arounf by the neck and he can be made> to >>> do anything. >>>>>> Aski him a direct quesiton about 9-11 and he runs faster than Paul>>> Watson from a lie detector. >>>>>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], RoadsEnd <roadsend@> wrote:>>>>>>>> "Sean," why don't you answer the questions posed to you. You are> a>>>> coward, without even have the courage of your convictions to post>>>> under your real name. >>>> >>>> And why do you demand so much information from people? Part of >>> your >>>> spook job? >>>> >>>> You make lists that are incongruent and speciously tie people >>>> together because of their last names, trying to lead people by >>> their >>>> own prejudices and ignorance. >>>> >>>> All to try to influence posters on a few, but very active, >>>> disassembling small-time Internet forums. What's the > point, "Sean"? >>>>>>>> If you really believed what you post, Why would be spending your>>>> time here? >>>> >>>> Peace, >>>> Kris Millegan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >==
