Barbara, I wish you and Seanus all the best. I hope you share something other than me with him, as that could get dry and mono-tone-us otherwise as an impersonal crusade without even a sip of mystery like intractable quagmires have to recommend them to visitors.
"Nazi's didn't completely invent their dirty tricks, they stole the worst ideas everywhere, some from the US. What I always found missing in our post war society was a deep inquiry" -BS Borrowed ideas, yes, such as "concentration camps" from the English in the Boer War, "Final Solution" both the term itself and specific genocidal methods learned from Canadian missionaries, propaganda from American advertising as Joseph Goebbels said before WW2, and most importantly by FAR, funding for building Darwinist might-makes-right racist utopia courtesy of 19th century US robber barons and managed by Prescott Bush, else they could not have afforded Speers and Riefenstahl for Goebbels to pimp US aid as "Hitler's Economy", as if not funded by US Robber Baron loot, plundered from Americans going through the Great Depression. No inquiry, so Prescott set up the Little Hitler Factory using recycled German expertise. Of the correspondence between the US Great Depression and Prescott's utopia in Germany, his son GHWB said,"What we are doing is capital transfer to those who are higher, tighter, and righter...if the American people knew what we ARE(not were 1920's 1930's 1940's but 1980's) doing, they would chase us down the street and lynch(Nuremburg) us(US robber barons and Enronistas and Dubai-headquartered no-bidders )". Not a chance, we read even less than our forefathers, so we have twice-unelected Dubai-ya and two trillion dollars more added to the cost of building Prescott's utopia. And we don't even get a new Leni Riefenstahl movie or Speers architecture. Somebody figured out we don't require much in the way of bread-and-circuses anymore. But Hollywood does incorporate "Triumph of the Will" into every sequel in the "But We're the Good Guys" series of cops-and-robbers, cowboys-and-indians, and lone crazed good guy lone crazed bad guy. Hollywood teaches us that understairs mentality is really a glorious existentialist jump out all the more so for less pay and no strategic benefit and white trash mercs are better than an endless procession of haji indian cannon fodder extras almost resembling a video game inculcating a craving for high tech weapons and impersonal crusades. Years ago Kris asked me to look at Sean's early posts. As background, Kris had noticed that the pseudonym Sean McBride is an Irish character like Virginius Haufniensis is a German character, real or fictional they are presumably personal symbols communicating something, perhaps a hidden joke on us, as well as aliases. Kris supposed that Sean, alternate name for John and Chip, could be a hidden joke, already at the inception a better supported speculation than most 911 positions still unsupported with facts, you must agree. Kris noted that the McBride alias became active on the internet at precisely the same time as Chip Berlet received a $100,000 grant to engage in internet operations. I responded that Sean or McBride's internet operation was based on a Boston suburb and near Harvard, same as Berlet. Again, initial speculation allowed to survive because it has factual support and no factual debunk. Someone not Sean showing us a driver's license of someone would be a non-fact, Sean's best substitute for publishing his lifetime grant record to establish to his victims the purity of his motives in stalking and harrassing us after love is long gone. Threatening to sue is not factual debunk, is it? No. Chip Berlet went to college with Condeleeza Rice and myself. I did not meet them or encounter their names. Seanus Berlet dropped out, and has been well-funded ever since, often by the kind of grants that law requires be made public. I wonder if McBride would be able to carry his libel, slander, and defamation lawsuit through all the way without offering his voice for identification by acquaintances of Chip Berlet. I like that better than Sean's idea of having his lawyer show somebody's driver's license, which is a non-fact without corroboration. Do you notice "Sean" is not a great friend or ally of yourself, unless you like the "you insulted my wife" type of self-ingration process in lieu of another social process? I urge you to consider his other social graces and maybe you would experience the same dearth of facts and logic which has pegged my valuation of "Sean" at below zero. On the other hand, you have turned up a lot of facts, which qualifies you as an internet poster. I wanted you to draw more conclusions. I know so many people who offer preliminary speculations as conclusions without ever turning up any supporting facts, but you turn up mountains of facts and never draw conclusions. Even academics arrange their facts in a conspicuous configuration in their published writings. Still, if all you want to be is a researcher, that puts you on a level above those who push unsupported speculations as conclusion for years after the apparent predicate falls by the wayside. "Engine part too small", for instance, too small to be the front turbofan but right size to be what it is in Rolls-Royce engines on American Airlines Boeing 757, but we are still hearing "engine part too small". "Engine part too small", "tight high-g turn", "we will bury you(Kruschev)", memorable if easily debunked, but I cannot remember anything Sean has ever said or is pandering right now. Memorable is probably the low bar, below speculation couched as conclusion. Do you remember anything Seanus has said? The Sean McBride alias is evidently desperate to find something memorable to say these days. I find his communications content-free, and sad to say, not even memorable content-free or, a new low bar: puzzling content-free. Puzzles can be fun. I have solved a lot of puzzles, if I choose to be generous and take up a puzzle posed by a question. The only low-bar entry of Sean's there was the Shakespeare question, but,"Methinks he doth protest too much" destroyed Sean's position on Shakespeare, so I thought of a Greek author and a question that would interest a hierarchicalist. Maybe like Shakespeare and all court jesters when mocking the king, Oedipus Rex was really about gay Alexander murdering his father and his campaign as an interlude with mother. Of course as far as Johnny Gotsch-Gannon in the White House, we do not mean the Tim White and Ted Gunderson and Sean McBride house. As far as gay Alexander and no-bid fear-tactic plunder under the big Dubya in Spencer Tracy's cum DCI's Mad Mad Mad Mad World, we do see Alexander's PNAC policy murdering his father's Baker Plan, don't we? Then we might look for fourth generation Bush family Oedipal Lex, son and father's shared Mother's milk, finding that milk in no-bid war profiteering for no other purpose, obscene oil company profits over the protestations of Sean's and Ruppert's oilco janitors, poppies liberated from Afghan Taliban not international al-CIA-duh for 911 heroin partners the Paks, and Bekaa Valley poppies liberated by the US for 911 and PanAm 103 air crash and 911 heroin funding partners the Lebanese heroin families. Money love as unifying milk, Oedipal Lex for Alexander and father and Prescott and Sam. -Bob Dodds ----- Original Message ---- From: Lea N. der <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: mark urban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:54:34 AM Subject: This was not the Bob I knew Mark, One of my biggest problems, I think, is that I don't recognize when the problem I have has to do with stupidity; maybe the reason is, I do not accept conventional use in this field. .... We only can judge verbal expression on the net and that is only part of the game. Bob life, streets, Washington: Admittedly I felt sorry, I pondered if I could help him to get paid jobs in writing web pages for artists over here. But it is getting more difficult over here too, especially in artist circles. He mentioned something on cia-drugs and he told me a little about it later. He did things in the field of art, photography. And he was active in the larger Linux society. He seems to live under absolutely harsh conditions. And I think Kris is poison for him. It does not help him the least to sort out his problems and decide which way to move on, to improve his conditions a little. I always had the impression that he is basically a warm and helpful person. [ look what Catherine Fitts did .. that is the road needed ...] To me it felt as if Kris gave a shit about his taking cia-drugs so seriously to copy it into his own site. Sean at least added a link and kept it as long as Bob's site existed. Remember when Bob told us, he needed money to buy a new pair of shows? He lost one getting into the heavy drug quarters in Washington. Or did he only tell this me, or did only I pay attention? Bob was trying to host Brian's research - all that was left of him for a while. I think Bob - without realizing it - allows Kris to manipulate him into fighting his fight for him. He pulls everybody on the list now into this dirty little running gag Chip, Chippie and other funny little insults. I was caught in the group dynamics with Sean myself at the time of Brian Quig's dead. The problem is, Bob would need to take a step back and watch carefully what Kris says vs what he does. Check it with other data. And than he would discover that Kris manipulates him to fight an enemy of his own design. ... What lies behind this, only weakness? Probably. But you need to open your eyes to see. The net Bob is caught in are the devious elites, that is the only secure mental space for him. Yes there are devious elites but the devious ones are on every little strata of society. As there is a connection between weakness and deviance. If you are weak and Kris obviously is, and you can't fight straight you need dirty tricks. It's a basic human flaw. Maybe if I had more time and patience with Bob, his last action wouldn't have happened. This was not the Bob, I knew. That was a little brown shoes foot soldier. Will he sent somebody to kill me over here at the place in Cologne, were I live. Not quite as easy as in Brian's case. Although I thought about Brian when I choose a dark little road off the filled streets at night the other day and a big car headed my way. Have you noticed how very, very selectively my mails on this topic were forwarded by Kris? Kris censure? Never!!! He blamed me for not being able to speak for myself to ignore my reply on political-research. And, if I see things correctly, he did not forward my last comment, that would harm his neo-Nazi slander that is now connected on the net with my name. See how easy this works without any interference from the services who have to do their jobs. The Nazi's didn't completely invent their dirty tricks, they stole the worst ideas everywhere, some from the US. What I always found missing in our post war society was a deep inquiry into what exactly had happened with the humans down to the last one on the streets. Selection is the most basic element in manipulation. I wish Bob, would see and understand. Take care, thanks for the comments.
