Good, great..., far more balanced now. I am tired by the time I get to
email. lol.
Thanks,
m
>
>
> dear michael1,
>
> Thank you
>
> It is critical we process critically, rather than get lost/misdirected;
> what about the following?:
>
> Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American
> law-enforcement?
>> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>
>
>
> "Inviolable archives means INTERPOL records are beyond US citizens'
> Freedom
> of Information Act requests and from American legal or investigative
> discovery ("unless such immunity be expressly waived.")
>
>
> It also appears to mean that Americans who get arrested on the basis of
> Interpol work cannot get the type of documentation one normally would get
> in
> the discovery process, which is a remarkable reversal from Obama's
> declared
> efforts to gain "due process" for terrorists detained at Gitmo. Does the
> White House intend to treat Americans worse than the terrorists we've
> captured during wartime?"
>
> === related:
>
> http://patriotroom.com/article/obama-exempts-interpol-from-search-and-seizure-on-us-lands
>
> Section 2(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever
> located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such
> immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of
> international organizations shall be inviolable.
>
>
>
> === *** This Guy Really Digs In ;-):
>
> Nudge, nudge folksâ¦
> This seems a minor change but let us break it out for you as we see it.
> Letâs look at the section from Executive Order 12425.
> Obama Executive Order Cedes US Sovereignty, Citizen Rights to Interpol
> http://www.worth-reading.com/2009/12/obama-executive-order-cedes-us.html
>
>
> thanks
>
> #########
> can we please try deal with your 'modulated corruption authority'
> proposal,
> After the Obama Executive Order Amendment thingk, Please!? ;-)
> (sometimes my brain gets so busy it starts to overheat, and
> everythingk starts to melt & meld confused me thingks, dear friendO!)
>
> Cognitive-Dissonance as the way of being,
> Welcome to the future now,
> Soylent Green ;-)
>
> ifin ya knows whatta means? ;-)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: micha...@midcoast.com
> To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 10:33:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] U.S. placed under international police-state?
>
> Okay, see your point, I move too fast.
> Okay, I read again and read new site too.. There are most likely other
> issues, not named, such as is InterPol becoming a Mossad front? Perhaps.
> InterPol like Mossad is 95% Benelux anyway. I still donât see a giant
> problem as law reads. For example by rules of procedure if anything used
> against a US citizen in court then access to records could not be used
> unless other party had access.
>
> Granted the US is a police state. Few can see the extent. Part of this
> is necessary though, but much not. I know that picky sounds icky. About
> 1994 I met a German lady in a restaurant on Cape Cod. She asked me out of
> the blue, âDonât you Americans realize that you are living in a police
> state?â I answered that I realized we are a police state but that most
> donât and wonât.
>
> In some utopian state spying might not just be legal but be esteemed. But
> here the patriot game is still played, even heavily in alternate media.
> At times it helps me to think about the implications of Richard Wagnerâs
> opera: Das Rheingold.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Rheingold
> It still remains that for greater security spying is still necessary. Or,
> in other words, in life-on-lifeâs-terms, spying is both necessary and
> illegal. In the Opera the Rhein maidens can hand out the golden ring.
> The âGolden Ringâ is the ring of power. It is necessary for power to
> operate. Power must have critical knowledge.
> You can see why spy organizations are always referred to as âringsâ.
> You
> canât have a simple back and forth. A large âinner tubeâ must be
> organized so what goes around one way can check on what goes around the
> other.
>
> Now and then people complain about âsubmarinesâ in prisons,
> particularly
> the âmaxâ fed prisons like Marion, Ill. This is where a few prisoners
> are
> given whatever they want. Nice suite, drugs, womenâ¦, whatever. Yet this
> MUST be. How could trust develop unless those caught in bad biz, as bad
> biz is needed, get fixed up when caught in the wiz.
> When you think about it the necessity of protecting these âunpatriotic
> spiesâ is the same necessity that with âgolden ringâ we exempt
> spouses
> from testifying against each other.
>
> Ainât perfect, but thatâs life.
>
>>
>>
>> dear michael1,
>>
>> rather than us getting lost/misdirected via the ever downward-spiraling
>> cognitive-dissonance of 'broad-stroke' posturing as to 'what is proper
>> posting', in lieu of embracing the more precise accountability we
>> supposedly
>> seek ... can we instead please begin by addressing the following
>> previously
>> sent to thee:
>>
>> Did Obama exempt Interpol from same legal constraints as American
>> law-enforcement?
>> http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/did-obama-exempt-interpol-from-same-legal-\constraints-as-american-law-enforcement/
>> (as such appears salient question as to 'Police State' issue, and at
>> least
>> directs us back to subject issue)
>>
>> ===
>> ------ snip -----
> continues here:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/48499
>
