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From: Nadezhda Ivanova [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:58 AM
To: Interoperability Documentation Help
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Question about owner and group defaulting rules in MS-ADTS

Hi,
In MS-ADTS, section 7.1.3.6, is written the following:


The GROUP field is defaulted as follows:

* If the DAG was used as the default OWNER field value, then the same SID is 
written into the GROUP field.


However, it appears that the creating user's primary group is ALWAYS used as 
the default group, regardless of partition or owner.
Example:
We create an object in the domain partition, say an OU, without providing an 
nTSecurityDescriptor. The creating user is a member of Domain Admins, with 
primary group Domain Users, so the DAG is Domain admins as per the DAG rules in 
the same document. Domain Admins is used as the OWNER in the new object's 
security descriptor. According to the above statement, Domain Admins should 
also be set as the default group. However, in a Windows 2003 server, Domain 
Users is defaulted as the group in the new object's descriptor. If the user's 
primary group is changed to Domain Admins, then the group of the new object is 
defaulted to Domain Admins.

The above behavior is consistent with CreateSecurityDescriptor algorithm from 
MS-DTYP, where the primary group of the security token is assigned if a group 
is not provided.

Could you please clarify the contradiction between MS-ADTS, MS-DTYP and actual 
behavior?

Regards,
Nadezhda Ivanova
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Nadezhda Ivanova
Software Engineer
Software Development

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