Nadya,

  Active Directory is supposed to apply the requirements to  any security 
descriptors maintained by a DC, as described in section 7.1.3.  ACE ordering is 
one of the requirement.  If forest functional level is DS_BEHAVIOR_WIN2003 and  
fDontStandardizeSDs is false,  the ACEs in the ACLs will be sorted by DC using 
the ACE ordering rule in 7.1.3.1 MS-ADTS.    This enforcement should happen 
either when a new object is created or when LDAP modify on security descriptor 
is done.  If the ACE reordering cannot be done for some reasons, there will be 
no LDAP error returned and.  The order of explicit ACEs supplied by the client 
is preserved. 

 You are running test against Windows 2008 and  by default fDontStandardizeSDs  
should be zero.  So the ACE reordering should happen.  Could you send me (1)the 
LDAP command you used to create the group 
(2)the SD you provided   
(3)the dump of  SD finally set on group object ?   
I will investigate to find the reason why reordering is not happening. 

I am working on the clarification for the section of 7.1.3.1 based on two of 
your questions.  I will let you know.

Thanks!

Hongwei
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Nadezhda Ivanova
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:22 AM
To: Interoperability Documentation Help
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [cifs-protocol] Questions regarding 7.1.3.1 ACE Ordering Rules

Hello,
I was running some test against a Windows 2008 server, forest functional level 
and domain functional level are both 2008.  I created a group via LDAP and 
provided a security descriptor with ACE's deliberately scrambled - e.g Deny 
before Allow, Object Specific before Regular. I did not get an LDAP error, the 
group was successfully created, but the SD looked the way I provided it, that 
is, not according to the rules described in this section. Can you explain why 
this happens? What behavior should I expect, is Windows supposed to sort them, 
return an error, or sort them later, or when a recalculate hierarchy request is 
sent?

In addition:
What is ACE canonical form?
In the sentence:  "The nest rule is only applied if the previous rule(s) give 
inconclusive results" - what would constitute an inconclusive result? 

Best Regards,
Nadya
 
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