Den 07.11.2021 04:55, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


On Sunday, November 7, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    Den 06.11.2021 19:09, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:

        On Saturday, November 6, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:


        [.............]

                    @Andrea
                    I succeeded to rendered further combinations and
            cleaned up
                    my file name syntax as follows:

                    du -sh hd01.mov hd01*app*.mp4

                    1,7G    hd01.mov (input 10bit ProRes HQ file)
                    --------------------------
                    70M   
            hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4
                    72M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv420p.mp4
                    80M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv422p10le.mp4
                    82M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv422p.mp4
                    0   
            hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4 (failed)
                    26M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p.mp4
                    26M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p.mp4
                    --------------------------
                    26M   
            hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4
                    26M   
            hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-12bit_yuv422p12le.mp4
                    26M   
            hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p10le.mp4
                    26M    hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p.mp4


                but how they look visually? I found it a bit strange
            how h264
                compresses to different sizes yet h265 is all the
            same.. you
                tried with rgb(a) - float project setting in all
            cases, yes?




            The file quality (sharpness) looks fine against the input
        hd01.mov
            file, the file colors varies a bit between greenish and
            yellow-brownish.

            I didn't change the default project setting, just loaded the
            hd01.mov file once, and rendered all files from it.
            The default Setting > Format color model is RGBA-8bit
            Obviously it should have been set to the higher
        RGB(A)-Float for
            this 10-bit 422 ProRes HQ file format?


            Terje J. H



        I think yes, there even was bugreport about it but back in
        time it was said fine-tuning project settings (from
        auto/default at media load) is user responsibility...


    I have re-rendered all h65 files with Setting>Format>Color
    model=RGB-Float or RGBA-Float and OK.
    I'm not sure this is right or wrong, because all h265 file sizes
    and Bit rate become still practical the same size as with RGBA-8.

    Here two examples:

    du -sk hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p.mp4
    hd01_cin-multi_rgba-float_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4
    26240    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p.mp4
    26268
    hd01_cin-multi_rgba-float_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4


    And here follows comparision (diff) of Mediainfo output for the
    same files:

    diff hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p.mediainfo
    hd01_cin-multi_rgba-float_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mediainfo
    2c2
    < Complete name   : hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p.mp4
    ---
    > Complete name   :
    hd01_cin-multi_rgba-float_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4
    9c9
    < Overall bit rate                         : 3 015 kb/s
    ---
    > Overall bit rate                         : 3 018 kb/s
    20c20
    < Bit rate        : 2 685 kb/s
    ---
    > Bit rate        : 2 687 kb/s
    28c28
    < Bit depth        : 8 bits
    ---
    > Bit depth        : 10 bits
    34,35c34,35
    < Writing library    : x265 3.5+1-f0c1022b6:[Linux][GCC 10.2.1][64
    bit] 8bit
    < Encoding settings   : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / wpp /
    no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=2
    / input-res=1920x1080 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=0
    / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=3 / no-allow-non-conformance /
    no-repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 /
    no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=30 / keyint=30 /
    gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid /
    bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=20 / lookahead-slices=6 / scenecut=40
    / hist-scenecut=0 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64
    / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 /
    tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=0 /
    dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 /
    nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing /
    max-merge=3 / limit-refs=1 / no-limit-modes / me=1 / subme=2 /
    merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp /
    no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao /
    no-sao-non-deblock / rd=3 / selective-sao=4 / early-skip / rskip /
    no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra /
    no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=0.00 /
    no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf /
    crf=28.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 /
    ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 /
    cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain /
    qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 /
    videoformat=5 / range=1 / colorprim=9 / transfer=14 /
    colormatrix=10 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / cll=0,0 /
    min-luma=0 / max-luma=255 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info /
    vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps /
    no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps /
    scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.03 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp /
    no-aq-motion / no-hdr10 / no-hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt /
    no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 /
    analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 /
    scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 /
    refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 /
    no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 /
    max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei /
    no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 /
    scenecut-aware-qp=0conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0
    / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass
    ---
    > Writing library    : x265 3.5+1-f0c1022b6:[Linux][GCC 10.2.1][64
    bit] 10bit
    > Encoding settings   : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=3 / wpp /
    no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=2
    / input-res=1920x1080 / interlace=0 / total-frames=0 / level-idc=0
    / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=3 / no-allow-non-conformance /
    no-repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 /
    no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=30 / keyint=30 /
    gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid /
    bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=20 / lookahead-slices=6 / scenecut=40
    / hist-scenecut=0 / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64
    / min-cu-size=8 / no-rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 /
    tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=0 /
    dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 /
    nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing /
    max-merge=3 / limit-refs=1 / no-limit-modes / me=1 / subme=2 /
    merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp /
    no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=0:0 / sao /
    no-sao-non-deblock / rd=3 / selective-sao=4 / early-skip / rskip /
    no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra /
    no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=0.00 /
    no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf /
    crf=28.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 /
    ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 /
    cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain /
    qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 /
    videoformat=5 / range=1 / colorprim=9 / transfer=14 /
    colormatrix=10 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / cll=0,0 /
    min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info
    / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps /
    no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps /
    scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.03 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp /
    no-aq-motion / no-hdr10 / no-hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt /
    no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 /
    analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 /
    scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 /
    refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 /
    no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 /
    max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei /
    no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 /
    scenecut-aware-qp=0conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0
    / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass
    51c51
    < Bit rate        : 327 kb/s
    ---
    > Bit rate        : 328 kb/s
    58,59c58,59
    < Stream size     : 2.78 MiB (11%)
    < Source stream size                       : 2.78 MiB (11%)
    ---
    > Stream size     : 2.79 MiB (11%)
    > Source stream size                       : 2.79 MiB (11%)

    ----------------------------

    Terje J. H



well, considering predictability of bitrate this is good, but may be not very good for comparing max possible quality of encodings...

in
ffmpeg/video/h265.mp4 profile I can see cin_quality=-1 setting. This setting absent from h264.mp4 profile.

Try to comment it out before rendering? May be we can/should create unconstrained (bitrate-wise) profiles for h265, too...



Just comment out # cin_quality=-1 in the profile window, doesn't seem to change anything:

video wrench > Video Preset
Compression: h265.mp4
Bitrate: 0
Pixels:  yuv422p

# cin_quality=-1
# use framerate for 1 keyframe/sec, needed for seeks
keyint_min=30
x265-params=keyint=30
OK

du -sh hd01_cin_rgb-float_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p.mp4
26M    hd01_cin_rgb-float_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p.mp4

Terje J. H




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