Andrew, all of this sounds very instructive. Wish I had more time to delve into right now.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:53 PM Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin < [email protected]> wrote: > I send my findings with this link directly to Phyllis in Julu, but I guess > Terje may try this method on his sources too > > https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=182529 > Authoring a working HD-DVD using DVDAuthor? > > main feature seems to be menu! > > ==== > [..] forum, and many users are interested in creating DVD menus (which > DVDStyler does at high quality), but the videos should be HD. DVDStyler has > an experimental HD feature which builds on the deprecated HD-DVD standard. > The results of course do not play on hardware DVD players, but most player > software and even hardware BD players can play them. > > The problem is DVDAuthor. FFmpeg encodes and muxes just fine in HD, but > DVDAuthor limits the size of the result to the DVD limit which means that a > maximum of 9 VOB files at 1024 MB each is supported. DVDAuthor does not > throw any error message if the result is bigger, but it will not continue > playback once this limit is reached. The VOBs in the VIDEO_TS folder all > play fine, even the ones with a higher number than 9. But for the IFOs > these VOBs are out of range. > {... } > > Quote: > Originally Posted by Emulgator View Post > Manolito, maybe you can try to pre-concatenate those .VOBs to >1GiB to > keep their number below or equal 9 ? > Binary concatenation is all the filesystem does anyway while mounting any > group of _1.to _9.VOBs. > BIG SUCCESS... > > This suggestion does exactly what I was after. My current test: > > I used a 2hour 5min project with 4 source clips. Full HD at an average > bitrate of 27000 kbps and a max bitrate of 28000 kbps (wanted to preserve a > little headroom compared to the HD-DVD specs because ffmpeg tends to > overshoot the specified bitrates). Very basic VMG menu which just lets me > select the clip I want to play. > > Result came out at 25 VOBs, size about 24 GB. I used a binary file joiner > to concatenate the VOBs so I had only 9 VOBs after joining. It also worked > when joining all the 25 VOBs to just one. > > The resulting 3xHD-DVD Structure worked perfectly in MPC-HC and in VLC. > The menu did what it was supposed to do, even the chapters were preserved > accurately. Quality was excellent, the average quantizer was below 4. And > there was no need to use PgcEdit or VOBBlanker to repair the structure or > fix the IFOs. > > In this test I used only 1 VTS for all the 4 titles. This is alright > because for HD output you only want to use an AR of 16:9. Just now I am > running a second test conversion where only 1 title per VTS is used. Of > course I will also have to concatenate the VOBs in every VTS which has more > than 9 VOBs. I am quite confident that this will work, too. > > > So it looks like this poor man's method to create high quality HD results > with elaborate menus has been established now. Big thanks to Emulgator and > Sir Didymus for your very helpful suggestions... > > > Cheers > manolito > > > //EDIT// > Yes, like I expected using only 1 title per VTS works well, too. Just make > sure that no VTS holds more than 9 VOBs, if it does you need to concatenate > the VOBs so a maximum of 9 VOBs is present. > Another thing I tried does not work, at least not with my hardware. I > tried to convert the 3xHD-DVD structure to a BD structure using DVDtoBD > Express. No errors, but the resulting BDMV folder would not play correctly, > neither under MCP-HC or VLC, and my old Xtreamer streaming box also had > problems. None of these players could play the menu which DVDStyler had > created and which was then converted by DVDtoBD Express. I suspect that > DVDtoBD Express is to blame, but there might be other reasons. > Last edited by manolito; 17th March 2021 at 19:32. > > ===== > > > > > -- > Cin mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >
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