Den 19.02.2023 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:


Den 19.02.2023 18:59, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 20:39 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:



    Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


    вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen
    <[email protected]>:



        Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


        вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
        <[email protected]>:

            IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a
            standard connection to transfer native DV and HDV video
            files to Lin/Win/Apple computers.

              * FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via
                dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or
                directly via some NLE systems.
              * The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and
                was mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2
              * 
http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5


              * ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using
                libiec61883 (Streamcopy) seems also interesting.

                On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is
                seemingly not compiled with --enable-libiec61883.

                Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled
                libiec61883 via Cin-GG?

                http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883
                http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz


            I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing
            and Recording Media", but could not see Firewire media
            transfer was mentioned. However, in the Appendice
            section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages
            is found:

                --with-firewire       use firewire (auto)
                --with-dv                use dv (auto)

            Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is
            supported or optional can be configured?



        it was not tested in ages .....
        guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look
        at output of cingg's configure .... then connect device and
        try to set capture device to iec* ....

        I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again
        (tested it once several years ago), when my camcorder is
        back from service.
        The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder
        seemingly is dead.



    well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled
    with those libraries

    Could you possibly outline how to do it?


in preferences -> recording tab there must be source named IEC 61883.

To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to English:

Settings | Settings | Preferences window:

Video In / Record driver
In  the dropdown menu there are available both

  * DV 1394
  * IEC 61883



As reference also the following from Cin-CV's wiki and from Raffael's Howto (Cinelerra for Grandma):

http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1

    Firewire
    Firewire is the fastest way to download material into your system. Unless you will be importing your media from a CD, any other pre-captured format or use an analog video grabber, you will need firewire on your system.
    DV cameras
    There is an large variety of DV cameras that can be used with Cinelerra. Almost any camera that can connect using firewire will work. Be sure to set the appropriate parameters on the video grabbing system to match your particular camera.


http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder
http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab
How to capture video from your miniDV camcorder /Using the Command Line - dvgrab








    -----------

    I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on
    CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual wiki:

    https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg13022.html

    https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg06183.html
    http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26


              21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder

        There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to
        run the test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of
        *libiec61883*. Use this syntax:

        |test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg|

        and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any
        heavy resources consuming task on your computer since the
        lack of caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops.

        New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example:
        Syntax:

        |dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip|




    , but I am guessing (from bug
    https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you
    might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream -
    because it is not DV video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB
    input module for dealing with this, but it probably must be
    wired to DV /firewire module, or something like this should be
    used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer:

    
https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9




            Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively
            
https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html
            
https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/


            Terje J.  H




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