On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 1:30 AM Andrew Randrianasulu
<randrianas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> вс, 27 авг. 2023 г., 01:13 Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianas...@gmail.com>:
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>> вс, 27 авг. 2023 г., 01:01 Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianas...@gmail.com>:
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>>> вс, 27 авг. 2023 г., 00:56 Stefan de Konink via Cin 
>>> <cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
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>>>> On Saturday, August 26, 2023 11:26:17 PM CEST, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Also, can illustrative pngs be compressed (lossy) with pngquant utility? 
>>>> > It
>>>> > makes paletted pngs. Not sure how various pdf viewers will react to that
>>>> > ....
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>>>> I would first suggest to find out if PNG support is even part of the
>>>> regular PDF options. Some suggests not, some suggest 256 colors are
>>>> (without transparency).
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>>> this file from ~2008 suggest pdf can have jpeg variants or zip compression 
>>> for "streams" with some pre-filtering?
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>>> https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb30-3/tb96szabo.pdf
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>>> here is github:
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>>> https://github.com/pts/pdfsizeopt
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>>> warning, contain python 2.x
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>>> there are other tools using perl + ghostscript.... Or even something with 
>>> dotnet!
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>> And slightly down the line:
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>> https://gitlab.mister-muffin.de/josch/img2pdf
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>> For JPEG, JPEG2000, non-interlaced PNG and TIFF images with CCITT Group 4 
>> encoded data, img2pdf directly embeds the image data into the PDF without 
>> re-encoding it. It thus treats the PDF format merely as a container format 
>> for the image data. In these cases, img2pdf only increases the filesize by 
>> the size of the PDF container (typically around 500 to 700 bytes). Since 
>> data is only copied and not re-encoded, img2pdf is also typically faster 
>> than other solutions for these input formats.
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>> as found via this stackowerflow:
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>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14220221/how-to-insert-transparent-png-in-pdf
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>> thing is, I have no idea yet if latex2pdf can use any of this ....
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> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/45498/choosing-whether-to-include-pdf-or-png-in-pdflatex
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> this answer suggest you can use pdf instead of png. I wonder if pdf in 
> question can be one generated by img2pdf ?
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so, there was

https://sourceforge.net/p/dktools/wiki/bitmap2pp/

suggested by another web page

I compiled those tools on Slackware 15.0 i586 and resulting files are:

bash-5.1$ du -h ~/CinGG_e2k_june_2020_remote*
300K    /home/guest/CinGG_e2k_june_2020_remote-fs8.pdf
200K    /home/guest/CinGG_e2k_june_2020_remote-fs8.png
500K    /home/guest/CinGG_e2k_june_2020_remote.pdf
480K    /home/guest/CinGG_e2k_june_2020_remote.png

so normal png is 480kb, pdf is 20kb bigger, optimized (lossely) png is
200kb and pdf done from that is 300kb.

300 << 480 .... I tried resulting pdf file in KPDF from TDE 14.0.13
and they show up there.

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>>> But I guess html version can benefit from smaller pngs too?
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