Den 12.02.2024 00:07, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


пн, 12 февр. 2024 г., 02:02 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:



    Den 11.02.2024 04:36, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:


    Den 11.02.2024 00:57, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


    сб, 10 февр. 2024 г., 21:10 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
    <[email protected]>:

        There are two things I want to add to my current
        intermediate DVD mpg video files created with ffmpeg, and/or
        to the DVD tree structure created with DeVeDeNG:

            1. Create and add a Navigation menu in the beginning
            This will be an upcoming, separate topic

            2. Create and add Soft Subtitles as simple text info
            commentaries to the video content
            This is the topic for this post.


        The reason that I want *Soft* Subtitles as a separate text
        file stream related to timing, is because this should be
        possible to *add* or import to an existing video file 
        without the need to re-encode. It should also be flexible to
        display on or off during playback, if I have understood this
        correct so far.



    IIRC you can't add text-based subtitles to DVD video. Blu-ray
    yes, dvd no (both can use palletized reduced-color graphical
    subtitles) ... so at least rendering text as palletized picture
    and then muxing it into mpeg stream is unavoidable step,as far
    as I understand.

    I have prepared a new video file and will try to add sub-titles
    to-morrow
    
http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/subtitles.html#_how_to_create_soft_subtitles



    There are written several articles and answers to forum topics
    about adding soft subtitles to video.
    My best but only partly working attempt so far, is by applying
    this solution on StackOverflow:

    /Use ffmpeg to add text subtitles: NOTE: This solution adds the
    subtitles to the video as a separate optional (and
    user-controlled) subtitle track.
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8672809/use-ffmpeg-to-add-text-subtitles

    /1) First I created a DVD-video compliant MPG file with pcm audio
    from DV source (as previously)

    ffmpeg -hide_banner -i DV09-1993.dv -f dvd -target pal-dvd -aspect
    4:3 -b:v 8M -maxrate 8M -minrate 8M -bufsize 20M -muxrate 20M -mbd
    rd -trellis 1 -cmp 0 -subcmp 2 -c:a pcm_dvd DV09-1993.mpg


    2) Created the attached srt subtitle file:

        DVD-09-1993_subtitle.srt



    3) Added (muxed) the soft, external subtitle file (2) as a
    separate track to the mpg video file (1)

    ffmpeg -hide_banner -i DV09-1993.mpg -i DVD-09-1993_subtitle.srt
    -c:v copy -c:a copy -c:s copy DV09-1993+srt.mpg

        [mpeg @ 0x55aac13139c0] start time for stream 0 is not set in
        estimate_timings_from_pts
        Input #0, mpeg, from 'DV09-1993.mpg':
        Duration: 00:28:04.44, start: 0.540000, bitrate: 9701 kb/s
          Stream #0:0[0x1bf]: Data: dvd_nav_packet
          Stream #0:1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv,
        progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn
            Side data:
        cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 9000000/0/0 buffer size: 1835008
        vbv_delay: N/A
          Stream #0:2[0xa0]: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16,
        1536 kb/s
        Input #1, srt, from 'DVD-09-1993_subtitle.srt':
        Duration: N/A, bitrate: N/A
          Stream #1:0: Subtitle: subrip

        [mpeg @ 0x55aac134b140] pcm_dvd in MPEG-1 system streams is
        not widely supported, consider using the vob or the dvd muxer
        to force a MPEG-2 program stream.
        Output #0, mpeg, to 'DV09-1993+srt.mpg':
        Metadata:
        encoder         : Lavf60.16.100
          Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv,
        progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], q=2-31, 25 fps, 25
        tbr, 90k tbn
            Side data:
        cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 9000000/0/0 buffer size: 1835008
        vbv_delay: N/A
          Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
          Stream #0:2: Subtitle: subrip
        Stream mapping:
          Stream #0:1 -> #0:0 (copy)
          Stream #0:2 -> #0:1 (copy)
          Stream #1:0 -> #0:2 (copy)
        Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
        [out#0/mpeg @ 0x55aac134af80] video:1644910kB audio:316303kB
        subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:0kB muxing
        overhead: 0.561824%
        size= 1972232kB time=00:28:04.44 bitrate=9591.6kbits/s speed=
        378x


    4) Successful Playback of the final video and Audio with subtitles
    using a "reinforced" FFplay command - also found on StackOverflow
    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50175075/can-ffplay-view-subtitles

    ffplay -hide_banner -vf subtitles=DVD-09-1993_subtitle.srt
    DV09-1993+srt.mpg


isn't this command just uses external srt and not muxed one?

Yes, I think you'r right, and I wondered a bit about it, but had no keyboard shortcut for ffplay to test switching subtitles on and off.

So, afterwards I was more convinced - and fooled, when both Gnome Media player (Totem) and SMplayer automatically displayed the subtitles. But that was when the srt subtitle file had the same name as the mpg video file and was located in the same directory. But this worked as well with the first mpg file (1).

The command line "vlc dvd.mpg dvd.srt" also worked with audio. Why both VLC and MPlayer lost the audio with the srt muxed mpg file I have no idea about.
-----------------------------

From your first reply:

   rendering text as palletized picture and then muxing it into mpeg
   stream is unavoidable step,as far as I understand.
   But may be those DVD creation guis can do srt => dvd_sub conversion
   for you ?


Andrey mentioned the "srt2vobsub" program,  which seems to the same as the "srt2vob" script for DVD and "2dsub" for BD vobsub
https://web.archive.org/web/20130728210155/https://code.google.com/p/srt2vob


And from my reference to g-raffa:

   PRE-RENDERED SUBTITLES
        they are added (muxed) to the video stream as images with
   minimal information but can be separated (demuxed) when needed. They
   are used in DVDs         and they can be turned on and off.
        Most DVD authoring applications are capable of transcoding
   external subtitles to pre-rendered subtitles and of muxing them to
   the video stream.


Regarding the last sentece, this article describes the wanted solution - but on Linux ...?
https://robots.net/tech/how-to-burn-dvd-with-subtitles-srt/

while another article points on Handbrake as the best solution for most users (?)
https://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/how-to-burn-a-dvd-disc-with-subtitles/


Re 8) above
I also send a request to Raster soft why DeVeDeNG exits with an error before finishing the mpg video file and creating the iso.




        Input #0, mpeg, from 'DV09-1993+srt.mpg':=    0KB sq= 0B f=0/0
        Duration: 00:28:04.45, start: 0.540000, bitrate: 9591 kb/s
          Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv,
        progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn
            Side data:
        cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 9000000/0/0 buffer size: 1835008
        vbv_delay: N/A
          Stream #0:1[0xa0]: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16,
        1536 kb/s
        [Parsed_subtitles_0 @ 0x7f7368464340] Shaper: FriBidi 0.19.6
        (SIMPLE) HarfBuzz-ng 3.4.0 (COMPLEX)
        [Parsed_subtitles_0 @ 0x7f7368464340] Using font provider
        fontconfig
        [Parsed_subtitles_0 @ 0x7f7368464340] fontselect: (Arial, 400,
        0) -> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf, 0,
        LiberationSans
          39.75 A-V:  0.002 fd=   0 aq=  190KB vq= 1222KB sq=    0B f=0/0


    5) Playback using VLC

      * OK playback of video and subtitles when adding the subtitle file
      * BUT: The AUDIO is lost in VLC !?
      * Have looked into several menu items (unmute and force volume on)


    Additional I wonder:

    du -sh DV*.mpg

        2,0G    DV09-1993.mpg (1)
        1,9G    DV09-1993+srt.mpg (3)

    6) Why is the merged (subtitled) file (3) smaller than the initial
    file (1)?
    Even that the srt file is very small, it should rather be opposite
    .........

    7) And why the ffmpeg output (3), when the initial input mpg file
    (1) was created using "-f dvd -target pal-dvd", which I thought
    was just MPEG-2 and vob?

        [mpeg @ 0x55aac134b140] pcm_dvd in MPEG-1 system streams is
        not widely supported, consider using the vob or the dvd muxer
        to force a MPEG-2 program stream.


    8) DevedeNG got so far an error while creating the DVD iso from (3)
    Tested the movie file in the tree structure with VLC, and also
    that without audio.....




    But may be those DVD creation guis can do srt => dvd_sub
    conversion for you ?


        2.1 Preferably I want to add/import subtitles as fast and
        easy using GUI interactive tools like DeVeDeNG or VLC if
        possible?
        Next thereafter could be using the more time consuming ffmpeg
        
https://www.baeldung.com/linux/subtitles-ffmpeg#how-to-add-soft-subtitles

        2.2 So is the question if learning a special subtitle editor
        is necessary to create the text file easier, like one of these 5
        https://www.debugpoint.com/3-great-subtitle-editors-in-linux-systems/

        Tip, suggestions or experience how to do this?







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