Den 07.08.2024 21:38, skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin:

    g=30
    keyint_min=30

Seems to work for av1.webm format -- still testing.  I want to test Andrew's suggestions next.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 1:18 PM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 9:13 PM Phyllis Smith via Cin
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > Summary is that the error message is due to lack of keyframes
    and the workaround is to use Transcode.
    > BUT hopefully a better solution with the Render format
    parameters can be found.  The render fix for h264/h265 formats is
    the addition of the lines below (which obviously is not pertinent
    to av1).  I will see if I can find an alternative, but might not.

    aomenc --help mentions

    --kf-min-dist=<arg>         Minimum keyframe interval (frames)
    --kf-max-dist=<arg>         Maximum keyframe interval (frames)

    and there seems to be way (aom-params) to pass libaom specific options
    via ffmpeg's ...

    so ..
    aom-params=kf-min-dist=25:kf-max-dist=25 ?

    for svt-av1 you hopefully can use just keyint= with svtav1-params
    line?
    command line svt av1 encoder seems to default for 5 seconds?

    Also, may be add keyint_min=25 (for 25 fps vid) as generic libav*
    (ffmpeg) option


    >>
    >> # use framerate for 1 keyframe/sec, needed for seeks
    >> keyint_min=25                  (or keyint_min=30 for x265)
    >> x264-params=keyint=25   (or x265-params-keyint=30 for x265)
    >
    >
    > About the error message:
    >>
    >> FFStream::seek:
    /run/media/terje/Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_yuv422p10le_LP.webm
    >>  retry limit, pos=207 tstmp=8280,   err: Input/output error
    >> ** seek fail 207, 8280
    >
    >
    > Seeking Issues
    (https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Seeking_Issues.html)
    >>
    >> If you have an issue playing a video and not seeing it in the
    Compositor (just see a black
    >> screen), it is most likely due to the media not being designed
    to be editable. It is most likely
    >> not damaged. Generally it just does not have keyframes which
    are needed for seeking
    >> which is what is done when you move around the media and start
    playing in the middle.
    >> The media plays just fine in the compositor if you always play
    from the beginning because
    >> then you don’t need keyframes to seek. You can get around this
    problem if you proxy the
    >> media. A good choice to use for the proxy would be use scalar,
    ffmpeg/mp4 and size of 1/2.
    >>
    >> The proxied media can then seek and you will see it play in the
    compositor because keyframes exist.
    >
    > Or use TRANSCODE which adds keyframes when media is not seekable
    (see Manual for details). This is particularly useful for the mkv
    container, which often has seek problems.
    >
    > Just a reminder about the message below.
    >>
    >> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    >
    > This is not a problem. Basically, when you open a file if a
    stream has a known duration, there is no message. If the duration
    is unknown, it is estimated by using the File Size and Bitrate to
    estimate the duration.
    > ----------------------------------------


@Andrew, @Phyllis

Thank for your comments and suggestions, which I so far only have read while doing some alternative testing.

First, to ensure this was correct understood:
I didn't notice the same error messages using the same input file and rendering to h265.mp4 and h264.mp4

Now I have also tried to render the same input file using the (4.3x faster) av1_svt, but with the available 8-bit color depth in 10-bit mode:
    17M    av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm

Below follows output messages with no error messages, so yes, I think some preset parameters possibly should be added to the av1_aom.webm:

   FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
   /Videoklipp/Cineform/cfhd01.mkv
   Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
   Svt[info]: SVT [version]:    SVT-AV1 Encoder Lib v1.8.0
   Svt[info]: SVT [build]  :    GCC 10.3.1 20210422 (Red Hat
   10.3.1-1)     64 bit
   Svt[info]: LIB Build date: Jul 31 2024 07:22:12
   Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
   Svt[info]: Number of logical cores available: 20
   Svt[info]: Number of PPCS 76
   Svt[info]: [asm level on system : up to avx2]
   Svt[info]: [asm level selected : up to avx2]
   Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
   Svt[info]: SVT [config]: main profile    tier (auto)    level (auto)
   Svt[info]: SVT [config]: width / height / fps numerator / fps
   denominator         : 1920 / 1080 / 25 / 1
   Svt[info]: SVT [config]: bit-depth / color format     : 10 / YUV420
   Svt[info]: SVT [config]: preset / tune / pred struct         : 10 /
   PSNR / random access
   Svt[info]: SVT [config]: gop size / mini-gop size / key-frame type
                : 161 / 16 / key frame
   Svt[info]: SVT [config]: BRC mode / rate factor     : CRF / 35
   Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
   FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
   /Videoklipp/Cineform/cfhd01.mkv
   Render::render_single: Session finished.
   ** rendered 1780 frames in 51.541 secs, 34.536 fps
   FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
   /Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm
   FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
   /Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm
   FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
   /Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm
   FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
   /Videoklipp/Cineform/cfhd01.mkv



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