That's a good tip. Thank you. As I'll look at Calf again, in the near future. 

I can recommend Linux Studio Plugins, at least for DAWs on recent distros. 
They seem robust 

https://lsp-plug.in/ 
https://lsp-plug.in/?page=manuals 


Thank you again.    
A. 




On Tue, 2025-11-11 at 11:04 -0700, Phyllis Smith wrote:
> Adam, if you want to still use the Calf plugins, you can try to use them 
> without the UI
> interface and hopefully that avoids the crashes.  Use the CinGG pulldown 
> Settings-
> >Preference->Interface tab, Operations section and uncheck "Auto start lv2 
> >gui"
> 
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 10:01 AM adam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Well spotted. Thank you. 
> > 
> > In populating my DAW under Ubuntu 24.04, I have sadly found it necessary to 
> > uninstall 
> > and remove all CALF plugins. They were causing my somewhat new system to 
> > crash all 
> > the time. 
> > 
> > A great pity as they've been tremendous for a long while. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2025-11-11 at 09:31 +0000, Andrea paz wrote:
> > > I noticed that the calf plugins work but without UI. While trying to 
> > > investigate, I
> > > found this issue:
> > > 
> > > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/calf/-/issues/3
> > > 
> > > Does this only affect Arch Linux because it is removing GTK2, or could it 
> > > be a more
> > > general problem?
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