On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 18:11 +0200, Hermann Vosseler wrote:
> Marcin Kostur wrote:
> > Suppose i have two video tracks which i would like to join with a 
> > transition. Additionally i need
> > to corret colors (e.g. histogram) on those tracks,
> ...
> > If i apply effect to each track, then the transition will use uncorrected 
> > part  in overlapping
> > moment (is it a bug?).
> ...
> > The way i did  it was "correct a track and render" but it introduced 
> > unecessary DV-reencoding.
> 
> Andraž Tori wrote:
> > you probably want to say that two edits overlap. just render them first 
> > with all the corrections
> > you want and then use the new media files.
> 
> Hello Andraž,
> Hello Marcin,
> 
> quite often, I got struck by this behaviour. I consider it -- not quite
> a bug, but rather a shortcomming of the design, i.e. the way transitions
> are implemented and controlled in cinelerra.
> Basicalliy, it forces me to render the parts withl plugins to a lossles format
> before setting up the transitions. (Rendering to dv or mjpeg of course is
> not an option because of the quality loss introduced by re-encoding).
> This approach works, but really can't be called a "solution":
> 
>   - it is destructive, wheras all editing should be non-destructive
>   - it forces me into using a huge amount of disk space (which can
>     get a nightmare in large projects)
>   - it's against the natural workflow: normally, we first select the
>     takes and try to cut, and later on, if all cuts are OK and the
>     whole "flow" of the movie is working, we do the fine tuning.
>     With this problem we either can't use transitions while cutting
>     (if we need the effects, e.g. slow motion), or we can't use a
>     preliminary version of the effects later on to be enhanced.
> 
> So I think, we should open a enhancement ticket on this. What's
> your oppinion?

That this is quite some work to be implemented, especially in the GUI
which needs to be changed to allow for a plugin to be attached to a
specific edit. And also changes in XML format...

bye
andraz



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