[CinCVS] Re: Cinelerra Learning Curve

Jeroen Tuyn Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:03:34 -0800

Yes ,you are right.

I have been working a lot on avid express pro at school , and final cutpro at work.But i found cinelerra at first a bit awkward , but now i don't wantanything else.It just feels so more initiative then FCP and Avid are.


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 1. Cinelerra Learning Curve (Eric Mesa)
 2. Re: bug in libquicktimehv (Edouard Chalaron)
 3. svn sources not building on 64-bit Gentoo (Daniel Fort)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:16:40 -0500
From: Eric Mesa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Learning Curve
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I've come to realize that Cinelerra is a lot like Blender:
maddeningly complex to use at first and brilliantly designed once you
know what's going on. Keep people working at it until they "get it"
and then you'll have users for life - you've sold me!

Thanks for all the work you do to keep the Community Version easy to
use (I find it a lot easier than HV version). I hope to help in the
future, even if it's just documenting bugs or translation.

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Message: 2
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] bug in libquicktimehv
From: Edouard Chalaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:47:12 +1300
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he's not talking about compiling, just installing.
For your info once compiled, you just have to "make install", e.g. compil=
ing or installing there is not much of a difference.

It is, to me, good practice to build from source especially if some
packages (deb, rpm) can be installed when libs are missing.
At least when you build from source you know what is missing thanks to
the extremely informative output from configure=20

Cheers
E
M=C3=A1rcio, can you try to install these packages?
=20
libfaac0
libfaac-dev
faac
=20
pls, try one by one in that order to help identify dependencies so i
can include it in next release.
=20
regards
=20
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2007/1/24, Edouard Chalaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
 Best choice would be to install all libs needed by Cinelerra
 Stpe by step:

 Get the SVN of Cinelerra
 Run autogen and configure in ./hvirtual
 See what is missing in the output
 Use synaptic to install the missing libs, dont forget the dev packag=
es
(!!!)
 type: Make distclean
 and configure again
 Do it Til everything is sorted.
 Once all libs are found run make and make install

 Never failed for me.

 Maybe you want to make sure that faad-dev packages are installed
 Cheers
 E



 On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 14:10 -0300, M=C3=A1rcio Monteiro wrote:

 Hi,
 I tried to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu 6.10 with the package
 deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~muzzol/cinelerra/edgy-i386/
./
 but have a bug with this message:

 cinelerra: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1:
undefined symbol: faacDecOpen

 and the Cinelerra don't open.
 What do I do ??
 Thank you


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compiling or installing there is not much of a difference.
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It is, to me, good practice to build from source especially if some packages (deb, 
rpm) can be installed when libs are missing. 
At least when you build from source you know what is missing thanks to the extremely 
informative output from configure 
 
Cheers 
E 
 
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M&#225;rcio, can you try to install these packages?

libfaac0
libfaac-dev
faac

pls, try one by one in that order to help identify dependencies 
so i
can include it in next release.

regards


2007/1/24, Edouard Chalaron &lt;<A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]</A>&gt;:
&gt;
&gt; Best choice would be to install all libs needed by 
Cinelerra
&gt; Stpe by step:
&gt;
&gt; Get the SVN of Cinelerra
&gt; Run autogen and configure in ./hvirtual
&gt; See what is missing in the output
&gt; Use synaptic to install the missing libs, dont forget the 
dev packages
&gt; (!!!)
&gt; type: Make distclean
&gt; and configure again
&gt; Do it Til everything is sorted.
&gt; Once all libs are found run make and make 
install
&gt;
&gt; Never failed for me.
&gt;
&gt; Maybe you want to make sure that faad-dev packages are 
installed
&gt; Cheers
&gt; E
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 14:10 -0300, M&#225;rcio Monteiro 
wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Hi,
&gt; I tried to install Cinelerra on Ubuntu 6.10 with the 
package
&gt; deb <A 
HREF="http://www.kiberpipa.org/~muzzol/cinelerra/edgy-i386/";>http://www.kiberpipa.org/~muzzol/cinelerra/edgy-i386/</A>
&gt; ./
&gt; but have a bug with this message:
&gt;
&gt; cinelerra: symbol lookup error: 
/usr/lib/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1:
&gt; undefined symbol: faacDecOpen
&gt;
&gt; and the Cinelerra don't open.
&gt; What do I do ??
&gt; Thank you
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; 
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:38:21 -0800
From: Daniel Fort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] svn sources not building on 64-bit Gentoo
Reply-To: [email protected]
I've been updating and building from SVN every Wednesday and this week(revision 985) it failed. It looks like everything is in order:
Summary of mandatory components:
 libogg found
 libvorbis found
 libvorbisenc found
 libvorbisfile found
 libtheora found
 OpenEXR found
 libdv found
 libpng found
 libjpeg libraries found
 libjpeg headers found
 libtiff libraries found
 libtiff headers found
 FreeType 2 found
 libx264 libraries found
 libx264 headers found
 libuuid libraries found
 libuuid headers found
 mjpegtools found
 libfftw3 libraries found
 libfftw3 headers found
 liba52 libraries found
 liba52 headers found
 libmp3lame libraries found
 libmp3lame headers found
 libsndfile libraries found
 libsndfile headers found
 libfaac libraries found
 libfaac headers found
 libfaad libraries found
 libfaad headers found

Summary of optional components:
 ESD subsystem found
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
 ALSA subsystem found
ALSA is enabled
 libraw1394 found
 libiec61883 found
 libavc1394 libraries found
 libavc1394 headers found
 librom1394 libraries found
 librom1394 headers found
Firewire is enabled
 OpenGL 2.0 libraries found
Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is enabled

But here is how it ends:
gcc -shared .libs/atom.o .libs/avcc.o .libs/avi_hdrl.o .libs/avi_idx1.o.libs/avi_movi.o .libs/avi_strl.o .libs/avi_odml.o .libs/avi_ix.o.libs/avi_indx.o .libs/avi_riff.o .libs/cmodel_default.o.libs/cmodel_float.o .libs/cmodel_yuv420p.o .libs/cmodel_yuv422.o.libs/codecs.o .libs/colormodels.o .libs/ctab.o .libs/dinf.o.libs/dref.o .libs/edts.o .libs/elst.o .libs/esds.o .libs/graphics.o.libs/hdlr.o .libs/ima4.o .libs/interlacemodes.o .libs/jpeg.o.libs/libdv.o .libs/libmjpeg.o .libs/matrix.o .libs/mdat.o .libs/mdhd.o.libs/mdia.o .libs/minf.o .libs/moov.o .libs/mp4a.o .libs/mvhd.o.libs/plugin.o .libs/qtcache.o .libs/qtdv.o .libs/qtffmpeg.o.libs/qth264.o .libs/qtpng.o .libs/qtmp3.o .libs/quicktime.o .libs/raw.o.libs/rawaudio.o .libs/rle.o .libs/smhd.o .libs/stbl.o .libs/stco.o.libs/stsc.o .libs/stsd.o .libs/stsdtable.o .libs/stss.o .libs/stsz.o.libs/stts.o .libs/tkhd.o .libs/trak.o .libs/twos.o .libs/udta.o.libs/ulaw.o .libs/util.o .libs/v308.o .libs/v408.o .libs/v410.o.libs/vmhd.o .libs/vbraudio.o .libs/vorbis.o .libs/workarounds.o.libs/yuv2.o .libs/yuv4.o .libs/yv12.o .libs/wmx2.o .libs/wma.o.libs/mpeg4.o -Wl,--whole-archive ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.aencore50/.libs/libencore.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive -Wl,--rpath-Wl,/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/libmpeg3/.libs -Wl,--rpath-Wl,/opt/cinelerra/lib /usr/lib64/liba52.so-L/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin -L/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/../../../lib64 -L/lib/../lib64-L/usr/lib/../lib64 /usr/lib64/libmp4v2.so-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/libstdc++.so -L/usr/lib64/usr/lib64/libvorbisenc.so /usr/lib64/libvorbisfile.so/usr/lib64/libvorbis.so /usr/lib64/libtheora.so /usr/lib64/libogg.so/usr/lib64/libmp3lame.so /usr/lib64/libfaad.so /usr/lib64/libfaac.so../libmpeg3/.libs/libmpeg3hv.so-L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../ -lx264/usr/lib64/libdv.so /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so /usr/lib64/libpng12.so -lz -lm-ldl -lpthread -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-soname-Wl,libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1 -o .libs/libquicktimehv-1.6.0.so.1.0.0ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(utils.o): In function`avcodec_decode_video':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/utils.c:635:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(utils.o): In function`avcodec_encode_video':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/utils.c:597:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpegvideo.o): In function`DCT_common_init':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:247:undefined reference to `MPV_common_init_mmx'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpegvideo.o): In function`MPV_frame_end':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:1593:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpegvideo.o): In function`ff_draw_horiz_band':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:4006:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpegvideo.o): In function`encode_picture':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:5299:undefined reference to `mm_flags'/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:5457:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpegvideo.o): In function`MPV_encode_picture':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:2219:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpegvideo.o):/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpegvideo.c:5781:more undefined references to `mm_flags' follow
ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(dsputil.o): In function `dsputil_init':
/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/dsputil.c:3911:undefined reference to `dsputil_init_mmx'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(imgresample.o): In function`img_resample':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/imgresample.c:464:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpeg12.o): In function`slice_decode_thread':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpeg12.c:2706:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpeg12.o): In function`mpeg_decode_frame':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mpeg12.c:3186:undefined reference to `mm_flags'
ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(mpeg12.o): In function `decode_frame':
/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/mdec.c:210:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(ratecontrol.o): In function`ff_rate_control_uninit':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/ratecontrol.c:181:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(ratecontrol.o):/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/ratecontrol.c:630:more undefined references to `mm_flags' follow
ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(fft.o): In function `ff_fft_init':
/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/fft.c:65:undefined reference to `mm_support'/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/fft.c:97:undefined reference to `ff_fft_calc_sse'
ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(faandct.o): In function `ff_faandct':
/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/faandct.c:127:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(faandct.o): In function`ff_faandct248':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/faandct.c:180:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(h263dec.o): In function`ff_h263_decode_frame':/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/h263dec.c:640:undefined reference to `mm_flags'
ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(asv1.o): In function `decode_frame':
/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/asv1.c:459:undefined reference to `mm_flags'
ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(asv1.o): In function `encode_frame':
/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/asv1.c:499:undefined reference to `mm_flags'ffmpeg/libavcodec/.libs/libavcodec.a(cljr.o):/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/cljr.c:77:more undefined references to `mm_flags' follow
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libquicktimehv.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory`/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory`/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual/quicktime'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dfort/src/cinelerra-svn/hvirtual'
make: *** [all] Error 2




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