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From: "marquitux caballero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:51:28 -0300
Subject: [CinCVS] RE: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #1732 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: [email protected]
thanks for the reply kevin, I want to show you some WIP in the themes:
http://www.freewebs.com/anubis4d/cinelerra/themes.cinelerra.tar.gz
of course there is a long way to go, I don´t know what does every image ob
the theme, just replace other themes. pleas a BEG you for help here. Is
there any way to enlarge the icons? (play, stop, etc) in 1280x1024, looks
really tiny.
I love cinelerra, and I use it for over a year now... I want to give
something back.
what the rest of you think about thos issues?
sincerelly yours.
Marquitux from argentina
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>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 06:52:38 +0200
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> 1. Down converting HDV to DV in camcorder (Terje J. Hanssen)
> 2. I wanna make son proposal for cinelerra, you know features missing
>(marquitux caballero)
> 3. Re: I wanna make son proposal for cinelerra, you know features
> missing (Kevin Brosius)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 02:23:36 +0200
>From: "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [CinCVS] Down converting HDV to DV in camcorder
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>
>Sony FX7E (i.LINK CONV ON) features a built-in hardware down convert
>from HDV on tape to DV output via the i.LINK cable, as so-called wide
>screen (anamorphic) DV.
>
>1) Is this DV format useful to edit DV in Cinelerra as a base for
>creating DVD?
>
>2) Is this useful as DV draft or intermediate codec to edit in
>Cinelerra, before re-capturing full HDV using timecode to create a final
>BD/HDVD?
>
>3) Or is native HDV capturing and editing in Cinelerra the prefered way
>to make maximum BD/HDVD quality video?
>
>Terje J. Hanssen
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>From: "marquitux caballero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:12:41 -0300
>Subject: [CinCVS] I wanna make son proposal for cinelerra, you know
>features missing
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>
>Hi, is this the rigth way to ask for a feature? there is some missing
stuff
>in cinelerra, wich I think some should take care of. Perhaps someone is
>already working on this, but please tellme, I´m not a coder, but you can
>count on my colaboration as a designer/editor/or qherever you need.
>
>first missing feature (not vital): Footage organization.
> cinelerra, simply throws every clip on the same resource
>window,so
>if you are capturing videos (I use kino for this), you must use the name
to
>know which clips is this or that one, but wouldn´t be great to have bins
>like premiere? we could organize the footage BEFORE use it on the
timeline,
>after the capture, with bins, everithing is faster (I have to thos all in
>the timeline and create CLIPS to do something lilke that, but is not the
>same, because when you thow back the clip from the resources window, ALL
>THE
>CLIPS WITH SPACES BETWEEN apears, you cannot choose one video or
another).
>
>SECOND missing feature (VITAL): METACLIPS
> when you edit a tv show(I do it every week), first you create the
>tematic blocks then you edit the clips with the host and finally you
>interleave host-note1-host-note2-adv-host-note3, in premiere or
mainactor,
>you create SEQUENCES, and then you can edit those sequences as a SINGLE
>AUDIO/VIDEO STRIP... in cinelerra I must create clips, so suppose I have
at
>least 12 layers (the regular stuff, 2 audio, 2 audio for music, 2 more
for
>other audio fx, 2 basic video,2 superimpose,2 titles, etc). thes you
create
>CLIPS, and when you throw that clip, you have 12 layer again.
>
>THIRD missing feature: look and feel
> SUV, look much better than blonde and bluedot (try not to
remember),
>but seriously, come on, SUV looks pro because you can´t see much, it´s
>dark... and flat, greenlerra looks promising, but still, is not difficult
>to
>make it look like the REST OF THE DESKTOP (gnome/kde) or even better, but
>most of us can´t compile cinelerra (I never could, and I try a lot), is
>really necesary to have compiled themes? Isn´t there another way to load
>themes? like xmms, or inkscape, come on, I want to contribute, and I have
>drawn several themes for cinelerra but I can´t use those.
>
>FOURTH missing feature: Aspect Ratio 16:9 and 4:3
> HOW IN THE NAME OF THE LORD shoud I suppose to use 4:3 footage in a
>16:9 project an viceversa? the "transform" videoFX, works fine, but ALL
we
>know that we´re losing quality here.
>
>FOURTH missing feature(VITAL!): coherent deinterlacing
> this may be my mistake... I guess, NONE of ALL the deinterlacing
>techniques in cinelerra works, why shoul I loose half of my lines? how
>other
>softwares do it? and doesn´t take forever, in cinelerra this is terrible.
>
>FOURTH missing feature:(?) mpeg
> why render only mpegAUDIO or mpegVIDEO? isn´t there an option to
>render a mpeg ProgramStream?
>
>thake this as a suggestion only, but I try to explain some REALWORLD
>problems editting with cinelerra, now you have the last word. Please I
want
>to help here, I love cinelerra, and want to be part of it, but I just
can
>draw themes or edit clips.
>
>Marquitux
>http://www.mdpsistemas.com.ar/Home/inicio.htm
>
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> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #1731 - 3 msgs
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:52:13 +0200
> >
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> >
> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Resampling best practices (Graham Evans)
> > 2. Re: Just joined, saying "hi" (Kevin Brosius)
> > 3. Re: Just joined, saying "hi" (Aaron Newcomb)
> >
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> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:46:17 +0800
> >From: Graham Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Resampling best practices
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> >Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > Replying to myself here, since I did not get any from the list.
I'll
> > > simplify my question.
> > >
> > > What is the best codec/file format to use when slicing video footage
> > > into smaller resolutions, which will then get loaded back into
> > > cinelerra for editing?
> > >
> > > I have been going down the list of formats and just by trial and
error
> > > trying to find one that works for me, but I'd love some guidance.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > -e-
> > >
> >Component Y'CbCrA 8-bit 4:4:4:4 in a Quicktime container with twos
> >complement audio is the only working uncompressed format which
correctly
> >stores alpha information. I found that after exhaustive (exhausting!)
> >testing 9 months ago so things may have changed. It is a good choice
if
> >you're playing around with alpha effects such as masks, chromakey etc.
> >The bandwidth on a PAL full screen video is about 41MB sec! I'm not
> >sure about its performance in terms of compositor playback because I
> >haven't played with it for a while.
> >
> >If you don't need alpha info I would start by trying out something like
> >Component YCbCr 8-bit 4:2:2, again in a Quicktime container.
> >
> >Straight DV export is working well and is not heavily compressed, with
> >no alpha. Most people around here seem to put it in a Quicktime
> >container. This may be a legacy of the long period of time when
> >straight DV export wasn't working.
> >
> >You could also try TIFF or PNG sequences for a non compressed format
> >(although alpha doesn't work properly last time I checked). Bear in
> >mind that if you don't select a container format (such as Quicktime of
> >avi) then you produce a folder of images which is not fully portable.
> >The text list of TIFF or PNG images in the folder uses absolute file
> >paths. It needs to be recreated if you move your image directory.
> >
> >If you want to accept some compression for bandwidth reasons then why
> >not Ogg /Theora...
> >
> >
> >Hopefully thats helpful. Feel free to feed your own discoveries back
> >into the list. Best of luck...
> >
> >Graham E.
> >
> >
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> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 01:41:21 -0400
> >From: Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Cinelerra <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Just joined, saying "hi"
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> >On 2007-05-14 03:12, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > I have just joined this list. I have played with cinelerra a few
>times,
> > > but never had the tenacity to persevere.
> > >
> > > Now that there is some better documentation available, I thought I'd
>try
> > > again. So expect some pretty newbieish questions over the next few
> >weeks.
> > >
> > > I also thought I'd point out this blog, which looks interesting:
> > >
> > > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/
> >
> >Hi Nick,
> >
> >Welcome! Questions are always welcome here, even if no one has a good
> >answer right away.
> >
> >You can also search the mailing list for past answers, in case no one
> >gets back to one right away.
> >
> >--
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >-- __--__--
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:36:51 -0400
> >From: "Aaron Newcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Just joined, saying "hi"
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> >Welcome Nick! I have been using Cinelerra for a year and I still feel
> >like a newb :)
> >
> >On 5/15/07, Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 2007-05-14 03:12, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > > I have just joined this list. I have played with cinelerra a few
> >times,
> > > > but never had the tenacity to persevere.
> > > >
> > > > Now that there is some better documentation available, I thought
I'd
> >try
> > > > again. So expect some pretty newbieish questions over the next few
> >weeks.
> > > >
> > > > I also thought I'd point out this blog, which looks interesting:
> > > >
> > > > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Hi Nick,
> > >
> > > Welcome! Questions are always welcome here, even if no one has a
good
> > > answer right away.
> > >
> > > You can also search the mailing list for past answers, in case no
one
> > > gets back to one right away.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cinelerra mailing list
> > > [email protected]
> > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >Aaron Newcomb
> >http://www.thesourceshow.org
> >http://www.opennewsshow.org
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 3
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 02:42:55 -0400
>From: Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Cinelerra <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [CinCVS] I wanna make son proposal for cinelerra, you know
>features
> missing
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>
>On 2007-05-16 02:12, marquitux caballero wrote:
> > Hi, is this the rigth way to ask for a feature? there is some missing
s=
>tuff=20
> > in cinelerra, wich I think some should take care of. Perhaps someone
is=
>=20
> > already working on this, but please tellme, I=C2=B4m not a coder, but
y=
>ou can=20
> > count on my colaboration as a designer/editor/or qherever you need.
> >=20
>
>Sure, this is a good place to propose ideas. There are not very many
>active developers, so ideas for people who want to do that work, or
>funding are also helpful.
>
>
>(,...)=20
> > THIRD missing feature: look and feel
> > SUV, look much better than blonde and bluedot (try not to
remember=
>),=20
> > but seriously, come on, SUV looks pro because you can=C2=B4t see much,
=
>it=C2=B4s=20
> > dark... and flat, greenlerra looks promising, but still, is not
difficu=
>lt to=20
> > make it look like the REST OF THE DESKTOP (gnome/kde) or even better,
b=
>ut =20
> > most of us can=C2=B4t compile cinelerra (I never could, and I try a
lot=
>), is=20
> > really necesary to have compiled themes? Isn=C2=B4t there another way
t=
>o load=20
> > themes? like xmms, or inkscape, come on, I want to contribute, and I
ha=
>ve=20
> > drawn several themes for cinelerra but I can=C2=B4t use those.
>
>If you have artwork for a theme, and can provide it in electronic form,
>along with the text colors associated, it would not be as large a task
>for a developer or new contributor to make it into a full theme. (So,
>if you have drawn a theme, and really complete all the elements for the
>multiple dialogs and widgets, please do post that portion so someone can
>work on adding it. Please also release the artwork under a GPL
>compatible license if you want to contribute it.)
>
>(...)
>
>Lots of other great ideas in your email. There is always more to do!
>
>--=20
>Kevin
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:59:53 +0100
From: "Griffith Rees" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] Re: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #1732 - 4 msgs
Reply-To: [email protected]
Umm... maybe this is silly, but I noticed the heroinevirtual website
says the orignal author(s?) of cinelerra is unemployed (again).
My suggestion: what if we did what ardour.org does, and ask for
donations to pay hvirtual (whoever he, she, they are) to keep working
on cinelerra? Given that new would-be contributors regularly seem
baffled by the code base, presumably hvirtual could fix a few
outstanding bugs at least, if not push things forward substantially.
just an idea,
-griff
On 5/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Send Cinelerra mailing list submissions to
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>
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>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Cinelerra digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Down converting HDV to DV in camcorder (Terje J. Hanssen)
> 2. I wanna make son proposal for cinelerra, you know features missing
=
(marquitux caballero)
> 3. Re: I wanna make son proposal for cinelerra, you know features
> missing (Kevin Brosius)
>
> Sony FX7E (i.LINK CONV ON) features a built-in hardware down convert
> from HDV on tape to DV output via the i.LINK cable, as so-called wide
> screen (anamorphic) DV.
>
> 1) Is this DV format useful to edit DV in Cinelerra as a base for
> creating DVD?
>
> 2) Is this useful as DV draft or intermediate codec to edit in
> Cinelerra, before re-capturing full HDV using timecode to create a final
> BD/HDVD?
>
> 3) Or is native HDV capturing and editing in Cinelerra the prefered way
> to make maximum BD/HDVD quality video?
>
> Terje J. Hanssen
>
>
>
> Hi, is this the rigth way to ask for a feature? there is some missing
stu=
ff
> in cinelerra, wich I think some should take care of. Perhaps someone is
> already working on this, but please tellme, I=B4m not a coder, but you
ca=
n
> count on my colaboration as a designer/editor/or qherever you need.
>
> first missing feature (not vital): Footage organization.
> cinelerra, simply throws every clip on the same resource
window=
,so
> if you are capturing videos (I use kino for this), you must use the name
=
to
> know which clips is this or that one, but wouldn=B4t be great to have
bin=
s
> like premiere? we could organize the footage BEFORE use it on the
timelin=
e,
> after the capture, with bins, everithing is faster (I have to thos all
in
> the timeline and create CLIPS to do something lilke that, but is not the
> same, because when you thow back the clip from the resources window, ALL
=
THE
> CLIPS WITH SPACES BETWEEN apears, you cannot choose one video or
another)=
.
>
> SECOND missing feature (VITAL): METACLIPS
> when you edit a tv show(I do it every week), first you create the
> tematic blocks then you edit the clips with the host and finally you
> interleave host-note1-host-note2-adv-host-note3, in premiere or
mainactor=
,
> you create SEQUENCES, and then you can edit those sequences as a SINGLE
> AUDIO/VIDEO STRIP... in cinelerra I must create clips, so suppose I have
=
at
> least 12 layers (the regular stuff, 2 audio, 2 audio for music, 2 more
fo=
r
> other audio fx, 2 basic video,2 superimpose,2 titles, etc). thes you
crea=
te
> CLIPS, and when you throw that clip, you have 12 layer again.
>
> THIRD missing feature: look and feel
> SUV, look much better than blonde and bluedot (try not to
remember),
> but seriously, come on, SUV looks pro because you can=B4t see much,
it=B4=
s
> dark... and flat, greenlerra looks promising, but still, is not
difficult=
to
> make it look like the REST OF THE DESKTOP (gnome/kde) or even better,
but
> most of us can=B4t compile cinelerra (I never could, and I try a lot),
is
> really necesary to have compiled themes? Isn=B4t there another way to
loa=
d
> themes? like xmms, or inkscape, come on, I want to contribute, and I
have
> drawn several themes for cinelerra but I can=B4t use those.
>
> FOURTH missing feature: Aspect Ratio 16:9 and 4:3
> HOW IN THE NAME OF THE LORD shoud I suppose to use 4:3 footage in a
> 16:9 project an viceversa? the "transform" videoFX, works fine, but ALL
w=
e
> know that we=B4re losing quality here.
>
> FOURTH missing feature(VITAL!): coherent deinterlacing
> this may be my mistake... I guess, NONE of ALL the deinterlacing
> techniques in cinelerra works, why shoul I loose half of my lines? how
ot=
her
> softwares do it? and doesn=B4t take forever, in cinelerra this is
terribl=
e.
>
> FOURTH missing feature:(?) mpeg
> why render only mpegAUDIO or mpegVIDEO? isn=B4t there an option to
> render a mpeg ProgramStream?
>
> thake this as a suggestion only, but I try to explain some REALWORLD
> problems editting with cinelerra, now you have the last word. Please I
wa=
nt
> to help here, I love cinelerra, and want to be part of it, but I just
ca=
n
> draw themes or edit clips.
>
> Marquitux
> http://www.mdpsistemas.com.ar/Home/inicio.htm
>
> m: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Cinelerra digest, Vol 1 #1731 - 3 msgs
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:52:13 +0200
> >
> >Send Cinelerra mailing list submissions to
> > [email protected]
> >
> >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
> >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >You can reach the person managing the list at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >than "Re: Contents of Cinelerra digest..."
> >
> >
> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Resampling best practices (Graham Evans)
> > 2. Re: Just joined, saying "hi" (Kevin Brosius)
> > 3. Re: Just joined, saying "hi" (Aaron Newcomb)
> >
> >-- __--__--
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 07:46:17 +0800
> >From: Graham Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Resampling best practices
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> >Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > Replying to myself here, since I did not get any from the list.
I'll
> > > simplify my question.
> > >
> > > What is the best codec/file format to use when slicing video footage
> > > into smaller resolutions, which will then get loaded back into
> > > cinelerra for editing?
> > >
> > > I have been going down the list of formats and just by trial and
erro=
r
> > > trying to find one that works for me, but I'd love some guidance.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > -e-
> > >
> >Component Y'CbCrA 8-bit 4:4:4:4 in a Quicktime container with twos
> >complement audio is the only working uncompressed format which
correctly
> >stores alpha information. I found that after exhaustive (exhausting!)
> >testing 9 months ago so things may have changed. It is a good choice
if
> >you're playing around with alpha effects such as masks, chromakey etc.
> >The bandwidth on a PAL full screen video is about 41MB sec! I'm not
> >sure about its performance in terms of compositor playback because I
> >haven't played with it for a while.
> >
> >If you don't need alpha info I would start by trying out something like
> >Component YCbCr 8-bit 4:2:2, again in a Quicktime container.
> >
> >Straight DV export is working well and is not heavily compressed, with
> >no alpha. Most people around here seem to put it in a Quicktime
> >container. This may be a legacy of the long period of time when
> >straight DV export wasn't working.
> >
> >You could also try TIFF or PNG sequences for a non compressed format
> >(although alpha doesn't work properly last time I checked). Bear in
> >mind that if you don't select a container format (such as Quicktime of
> >avi) then you produce a folder of images which is not fully portable.
> >The text list of TIFF or PNG images in the folder uses absolute file
> >paths. It needs to be recreated if you move your image directory.
> >
> >If you want to accept some compression for bandwidth reasons then why
> >not Ogg /Theora...
> >
> >
> >Hopefully thats helpful. Feel free to feed your own discoveries back
> >into the list. Best of luck...
> >
> >Graham E.
> >
> >
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> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 01:41:21 -0400
> >From: Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Cinelerra <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Just joined, saying "hi"
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> >On 2007-05-14 03:12, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > I have just joined this list. I have played with cinelerra a few
time=
s,
> > > but never had the tenacity to persevere.
> > >
> > > Now that there is some better documentation available, I thought I'd
=
try
> > > again. So expect some pretty newbieish questions over the next few
> >weeks.
> > >
> > > I also thought I'd point out this blog, which looks interesting:
> > >
> > > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/
> >
> >Hi Nick,
> >
> >Welcome! Questions are always welcome here, even if no one has a good
> >answer right away.
> >
> >You can also search the mailing list for past answers, in case no one
> >gets back to one right away.
> >
> >--
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >-- __--__--
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 00:36:51 -0400
> >From: "Aaron Newcomb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Just joined, saying "hi"
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >
> >Welcome Nick! I have been using Cinelerra for a year and I still feel
> >like a newb :)
> >
> >On 5/15/07, Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 2007-05-14 03:12, Nick Rout wrote:
> > > > I have just joined this list. I have played with cinelerra a few
> >times,
> > > > but never had the tenacity to persevere.
> > > >
> > > > Now that there is some better documentation available, I thought
I'=
d
> >try
> > > > again. So expect some pretty newbieish questions over the next few
> >weeks.
> > > >
> > > > I also thought I'd point out this blog, which looks interesting:
> > > >
> > > > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Hi Nick,
> > >
> > > Welcome! Questions are always welcome here, even if no one has a
goo=
d
> > > answer right away.
> > >
> > > You can also search the mailing list for past answers, in case no
one
> > > gets back to one right away.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > [email protected]
> > > https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >Aaron Newcomb
> >http://www.thesourceshow.org
> >http://www.opennewsshow.org
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> On 2007-05-16 02:12, marquitux caballero wrote:
> > Hi, is this the rigth way to ask for a feature? there is some missing
s=
tuff
> > in cinelerra, wich I think some should take care of. Perhaps someone
is
> > already working on this, but please tellme, I=B4m not a coder, but you
=
can
> > count on my colaboration as a designer/editor/or qherever you need.
> >
>
> Sure, this is a good place to propose ideas. There are not very many
> active developers, so ideas for people who want to do that work, or
> funding are also helpful.
>
>
> (,...)
> > THIRD missing feature: look and feel
> > SUV, look much better than blonde and bluedot (try not to
remember=
),
> > but seriously, come on, SUV looks pro because you can=B4t see much,
it=
=B4s
> > dark... and flat, greenlerra looks promising, but still, is not
difficu=
lt to
> > make it look like the REST OF THE DESKTOP (gnome/kde) or even better,
b=
ut
> > most of us can=B4t compile cinelerra (I never could, and I try a lot),
=
is
> > really necesary to have compiled themes? Isn=B4t there another way to
l=
oad
> > themes? like xmms, or inkscape, come on, I want to contribute, and I
ha=
ve
> > drawn several themes for cinelerra but I can=B4t use those.
>
> If you have artwork for a theme, and can provide it in electronic form,
> along with the text colors associated, it would not be as large a task
> for a developer or new contributor to make it into a full theme. (So,
> if you have drawn a theme, and really complete all the elements for the
> multiple dialogs and widgets, please do post that portion so someone can
> work on adding it. Please also release the artwork under a GPL
> compatible license if you want to contribute it.)
>
> (...)
>
> Lots of other great ideas in your email. There is always more to do!
>
> --
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
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