that's awfully bad news i'm afraid... at least the part concerning the tv.
however it is good to hear that you had no problems running two cards.
and thanks for the prompt response! these things are good to know.

so it seems like good old tv does not fit in the modern world anymore.
maybe i should go get a plasma instead... if i only had the money.

georg


On Wednesday, 20. June 2007 18:41:28 Richard Pitt wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 17:43 +0200, Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
> > well... i never thought about it... :-)
> > is there anyone around experienced in operating multiple video cards?
>
> I have 2 identical PCI-X cards (n-Vidia 7900 GS) with 4 monitors - running
> on FC6 which nicely detects them and the attached monitors (Optiquest V95,
> LG Flatron Wide, and 2 NEC LCD71VM)
>
> Prior to this my old work station mixed both n-Vidia and ATI cards for 3
> heads - but there are problems getting the resolution set properly in
> this mix - better to stick to all one manufacturer so only one driver is
> loaded. The ATI card had both TV and monitor out.
>
> The problem with running a TV out as well as the compositor on a "real"
> monitor (on a card that has that option) is that all the cards I've seen
> detect when you have the TV connected and (when switched to the TV out)
> either limit the monitor to just the TV resolution, or turn the monitor
> off that is on that output - so you get one or the other, not both. The
> only way I've seen to do it is to use a separate external box that
> connects between the card and monitor and pulls the TV signal out with
> its own processor - and they are hard to find and were expensive the
> last time I looked.
>
> richard
>
> > graham you are probably right,
> > that's exactly what it looks like,
> >  the cards support only (max) two screens at a time.
> >
> > software switching may be an option for watching tv...
> > but for video production we need two big twinview monitors
> > *plus* the tv screen as reference monitor for watching our product.
> >
> > thanks
> > georg
> >
> > On Wednesday, 20. June 2007 15:46:48 Graham Evans wrote:
> > > Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
> > > > i have made the same test on two different machines, and found the
> > > > same. so i guess this is good for checking footage and rendered
> > > > results, but for the real workflow we still have to use the
> > > > compositor window.
> > > >
> > > > also, i could find no way of sending xine / mplayer output to tv-out
> > > > except through the x server (twin-view or separate x-screen).
> > > > a desirable solution would be to have extra tv-out apart from x.
> > > >
> > > > probably the most typical purpose would be watching tv through the
> > > > pc, as received by the tv card, and output to an analogue tv set
> > > > which still delivers more brilliant colors than any digital
> > > > flatscreen.
> > > >
> > > > yes, there is a rather cumbersome way to configure the x server
> > > > to serve the tv and to make mplayer use it in fullscreen mode...
> > > > but apart from difficulty, there are a number of serious
> > > > disadvantages.
> > > >
> > > > first, one has to sacrifice the higher resolution of the computer
> > > > screen, second, one has to sacrifice any other twinview-connected
> > > > monitor, and third, i could not manage to navigate dvd menus...
> > > >
> > > > obviously there is still a lot to do, probably also with the graphics
> > > > drivers (i have nvidia but i guess ati does not do better) to support
> > > > three devices at a time... there are three connectors on the card!
> > >
> > > I may not understand the situation but I thought the nvidia cards
> > > generally only allowed two of those connectors to be used at once.  I
> > > assumed this limitation is incorporated throughout the design of the
> > > card - including the hardware.  If so then there is no possibility of
> > > what you suggest.
> > >
> > > One possible avenue of investigatation is whether the external screen
> > > can be plugged in (s-video I assume) and then software switched between
> > > that and the second monitor.  Or is it built into the electronics which
> > > connector will take precedence...  If it is software switchable then it
> > > might be useful to have cinelerra switch back and forward.
> > >
> > > But honestly I think that's pie in the sky.  Why not just use another
> > > video card?  It could be a really cheap one.
> > >
> > > Graham E
> > >
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