On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:33:12 -0800 Herman Robak wrote

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:52:36 +0100, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:42:17 +0100, Terje J. Hanssen <[EMAIL
    PROTECTED]> wrote:
    ...lots of settings...

        Are the above settings correct, or should something be changed
        and possibly why?
        What are really "W Ratio" and "H Ratio" vs "Aspect Ratio"?

w/h ratio _seems_ like pixel aspect ratio. But I have not quite
figured out if that works the way it should.

When I feed the pixel aspect ratio for PAL into it (1.094/1.0)
it changes the X (width) from 720 to 787, which would be the
correct _display width_. (Well, almost. See below.*)

But what Cinelerra then does is to squash the 720 pixels of the
source video so that the new 787 pixel wide canvas fits within
a 4:3 box, with black bars on the sides. That's the opposite of
what I wanted. Is it me or Cinelerra who is dumb here?

*) The 720x576 PAL DV image is actually a little wider than 4:3
http://lipas.uwasa.fi/~f76998/video/conversion/ <http://lipas.uwasa.fi/%7Ef76998/video/conversion/>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/tvbranding/picturesize.shtml


Another Set Format menu selection is the Presets submenu:


-> selecting PAL here fills in the preset attributes DV Video (corresponds mine for SD DV above)
Frame rate: 25.000
Width:  720
Height: 576
W Ratio: 1.000
H Ratio: 1.000
Color model: RGBA-8 Bit
Aspect Ratio: 4.000 : 3.000 Interlace mode: Bottom field first


-> selecting 1080i here fills in the preset attributes for HDV(?) or full HD Video
Frame rate: 29.9700
Width:  1920
Height: 1080
W Ratio: 2.6667
H Ratio: 1.8750
Color model: RGBA-8 Bit
Aspect Ratio: 16.0000 : 9.0000 Interlace mode: Bottom field first

My first comment is:
This frame rate is for NTSC, not for PAL. Two better options in my opinion would here be two selections instead: 1080i/60 (for NTSC) and 1080i/50 (for PAL) respectively. A reasonable suggestion?

Second, I notice the Width=1920, and wonder if this yelds for full 1080iHD video only and not for HDV with width=1440?

Third, I notice the changed values W.Ratio=2.6667 and H.Ratio=1.8750
Again, what are and what do these W and H ratios .......?

And fourth, which values here for the anamorphic DV Wide not covered among the presets?


----------------
Terje J. Hanssen





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