Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2008, 02:58 +0200 schrieb Frans de Boer:
> Okay, i understood before that the CV-Cinelerra team was working on a
> new (bottom-up) cinelerra-CV version since it is obvious that if you
> have to resort to an option to "restore from backup" that the product
> must me fundamentally flawed anyhow...
> ...  but the main question might be: why is the original HV project so flawed?

Well, it is often difficult to pose the question "why?" -- often
those things manifest out of circumstances. For example: if we talk
of "bad leadership": there never was the intention of "leadership" at
all. Just Someone(tm) wrote code usable for editing video, realeased
it under the GPL and other people checking in those releses into SVN
and collecting bug reports....
And suddenly, there is something like "the Cinelerra-CV community"....

If you are interested, you may have a look at an old polemic text I
wrote last year in the time we had those discussions finally leading
to the start of coding at what is now called "Lumiera".
http://pipapo.org/pipawiki/Cinelerra/Developers/ichthyo/Cinelerra_woes

> Apart of the many crashes, CV-Cinelerra (v 2.1) does offer many of the
> things I expect from a professional Video Editor. it does has it's
> excentric ways compared to MainActor/Adobe Premiere, but still deliver
> AND because it uses XML files to create EDL files, it can be  - in
> theory - portable to other editors as well.

Yes, I want to stress the point that indeed you can do professional work
with Cinelerra. Cinelerra isn't a "pile of crap" or "broken". No, it basically 
works, allowes you to do quite advanced things and deliver hight quailty.

> My only hope sofare is that the new piece of code can handle the
> CV-Cinelerra V2 XML files too. I have already restarted projects three
> times - Adobe Premiere (win32) -> MainActor (linux) -> CV-Cinelerra

I can asure you: importing Cinelerra Sessions is on the agenda. There may 
be some rough edges, because we won't have an identical replacement
for each and every plugin Cinelerra provides, but my guess is, it won't
be too complicated to get in the clips, masks, camera/projector and basic
things like color correction, blur.

But note, as matters are now, this is just a guess how it may be when
we have a working edit+render core and are able to load and store sessinos.
Btw, we have not yet decided anything on what the native session format for
Lumiera will be, but it is designed in a way that we will have one 
(or several?) storage backends

For me personally, the fact Cinelerra stores it's sessions in XML was
one of the most important features for getting larger projects done
smoothly (including checking the XML into SVN or GIT and being able
to do scripted manipulations on parts or the whole project). Depending
on the quality of our scripting interface the situation may be different
for Lumiera though.

cheers,
Hermann Vosseler
(aka "Ichthyo")

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