hello

i respect your way of thinking but i wonder if it was google who offer to collaborate, you will say yes or not (remember it collaborates to constrain internet, as for example in china).

anyway :)
i have other proposal.
this summer, next to barcelona, in the pirineos mountains there is a summer camp for gnu-linux and they ask to me if you want to make a presentation.
its comming people all over europe.
it is free entrance.
here is the call for participation
http://associacio-aoe.org/scg/en/index.php/Call4participation

if any of you come to make the presentation, as a thank to the developers, i offer a room to stay a week in the center of barcelona (as many as 4 people, since i have not more room).
it will be my way to thank to people that develops cinelerra and lumiera.
you could visit hangar (cultural center, http://hangar.org), where they have been giving courses on cinelerra.

i hope you decide to come since in barcelona is growing a cinelerra community and give to me the oportunity to give thanks to you.


:)


Ichthyostega escribió:
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candela schrieb:
could it be interesting for lumiera to collaborate on this?
i think lumiera can be a very importan tool for activists and
mediactivists.

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Asunto: [hackmeeting] Announcing Freedom Summer of Code! [en][es][pt][it]
Fecha: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:12:32 +0200
De: Txopi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(en) Riseup Labs is excited to announce the Freedom Summer of Code! We
aim to advance critical movement technology projects and tools that
benefit a wide-variety of radical social justice organizations and
movements.

- From the FSOC website: https://we.riseup.net/fsoc
Proposal Guidelines
...
   * Describe your idea in detail.
...
     o In what ways will it serve organizations, individuals, and
       communities as a whole?


Hi Candela,

thanks for forwarding this invitation. I am well aware, that, given our
project succeeds and reaches its goals, it can be of some use not only
for indie film making but also for all sorts of activism, because it's
free software, will work smoothly with not patent threatened codecs and
support an effective workflow (hopefully...)

But, putting our personal political preferences aside, for the project
as a whole I think it's much better not to be affiliated directly to any
political organisation or movement (maybe besides associations fighting
against software patents or the like). It will likely be more beneficial
to the project, if it is able to address a broader range of potential
users, without e.g. scaring off people well rooted within the media
industry, which will certainly be not amused by a movement to "take back
technology from the monolithic proprietary soft-o-crats..."

Besides, another consideration comes into mind. Seemingly, the project
is not advanced enough to provide such isolated tasks, which could well
be treated completely within 5 months *and* yield satisfactory results
for the person participating. At the moment, within the realm of coding,
we have much tasks which are partially demanding, but don't deliver much
satisfaction on their own. To give an example: if the development of
Lumiera were more advanced, you could think of making a special "news
production workbench", meaning to provide some plugins, customisation,
macros, keybindings and project templates plus write a tutorial.

Cheers,
Hermann V.

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Btw: we need people helping with the Lumiera website!

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