flavio, thanks for this very valuable information.
i guess people would estimate if you could include it into the manual
at some appropriate location, e.g. as a note to the "effects" chapter.
cheers, georg


On Tuesday 09 September 2008 18:41:40 flavio wrote:
> Hi, there,
>
>
> When I colour correct/manage whatever movie I'm doing, I always face the
> same problems. With time, I've figured out a workaroud for both cases that
> somewhat take time but become very precise and eventually compensate at the
> end.
>
> For colour management, I use mostly brigh/cont, hue/sat, col bal and
> videoscope (still, 4 effects!). What I do is:
> - I create an additional video track, above or between the ones I am adding
> the effect to. Then I name it "garbage" or "delete it!" or anything that
> will let me know this is a temporary track;
> - I copy/paste one asset - or series os assets that may have similar
> light/colour conditions - to this track. If you double-click the asset, you
> can (in this order) copy, mute it, move your mouse to the next track and
> SHIFT-TAB it, and paste the video there. You'll realize all this is done
> via shortcuts, so it's repetitive but somehow easy and
> not-that-time-consuming; - I add the effects, keyframe them, finish
> whatever I have to do with the asset regarding effects;
> - Now here is the trick: I copy/mute/arm/paste it in the previous track.
> Whenever you do that repeatedly, the video effects will be pasted besides
> the other ones! It won't go down forever like when you just insert new
> effects in a track - they remain as if the track had only, say, 4 effects!
> So I'll just do that till the end of the movie and the whole track will
> have effects related to each separate asset but occupy a space as if we had
> only inserted four effects in the whole timeline!
>
> Now, the other process, when I have to precisely correct the colour of a
> video, I use Gimp-Gap. I talked to Raffa once about this: gimp is way more
> precise to do a proper colour correction of any image - and gimp-gap is
> fine for videos. You'd then have to render it as uncompressed YUV and open
> it in Gimp-Gap, colour correct it and re-export it.
>
> For the last year, I've been reading some technical books on photography
> (btw, I can recommend Ansel Adams books and Ron Bigelow's articles at his
> website for anyone interested in the subject) and was trying to find a
> precise and safe way to guarantee a proper correction of colour casts. To
> me, Cinelerra's histogram or white balance funcion are not precise the way
> they have to be (note that I'm not talking about the colour coherence in
> the video, as we can use Videoscope for that with very nice results). If
> they could be integrated to gimp/gimp-gap to colour-correct (as an effect,
> for example), it would be an immense and most-welcome evolution in this
> area.
>
> The bad thing about this process, as you can imagine, is that it takes way
> too much time, so I only do it in extreme cases, when I really want the
> thing to be perfect, so be warned =)
>
> rock on,
> flavio



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dr. kurt georg hooss
kurts film / schoepfung & wandel
breite strasse 6-8, d-23552 luebeck
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